Paint Match Probs

[Sir Nuke]

Good Luck JK, all of us here love our cars, and it does pain us all when we know that one of our members have not only had to deal with the initial damage of our little loved ones...but now are being hastled in getting them all healed up and back home.

 

[YellowMP5]

even though paint is matched using the automanufacturer code, it will still be different. there is a difference when paint is applied in a million dollar paint facility with special machines, temperature or inside a little "dust free" room at a bodyshop. all paints fade and when you repaint the bumper it will look different form the rest of the car. that is why even if they repair a bumper (one spot) rather than replace it, they still paint everywhere around it so as to get the best match. it does suck but there are cars (toyotas especially) that come with different color bumpers from the factory. next time check out a camry or a corolla. the difference in color is night and day.
btw, i believe the miata you posted has a "dirty yellow" look to it. its actually golden color with sparkles, yes sparkles in it (metallic?). saw it at my dealer. i think its ugly

 

[Section 8]

ok,

I've strong reason to believe that the paint code on the yellow mp3,HZ is incorrect. It could be that the actual paint code is 26S, which is blazing yellow and comes with the special edition 2002 miatas.

The MP3 yellow is DEFINITLY not the same yellow as the 2002 Special Edition Miata. The miata's yellow does indeed have a metallic flake in it and it also has a slight pearl white to it. The MP3 yellow does not have this characteristic and is completly flat in color.

Shawn

 

[jk7d]

26S, the color of the miata in the picture looks similar to what the MP3 looks like at times, in the photo - maybe not quite so brownish like . ask yellow owners and they'll tell you that the car color looks drastically different depending on what kind of light reflection. You cant really tell from looking at pictures but the paint actually has red in it.

 

[mp3_moran]

Maybe it's all the deer blood, I can't really see any red in mine.

 

[Kooldino]

Maybe it's all the deer blood, I can't really see any red in mine.

I think he meant a yellow miata, not mp3. But if he DOES mean a yellow mp3....mine is all yellow, NO red.

 

[Sir Nuke]

well as you know mine is yellow too.....however....you and I both know you have varrying degrees of yellow...from pale yellow to deep dark yellow.....and actually by adding red pigment to yellow you will DEEPEN it....make a deeper darker yellow....until you go that one step too far and then it starts to turn into orange. but I know what he means.....

and YES our cars DO change colors or APPEAR to change color depending on the light....all lighter colors do....and the effect is greater depending on if its a metalic paint or not....even the TYPE of light will change the color or its appearence since light is COLORED....and when you shine different colored lights on objects it makes it appear as those colors are BLENDED.....street lights, the floresent lights that may be in your garage, or normal incondesent lights, sun light (and at different parts of the day) all emit different COLORS of light....they ALL will make your paint APPEAR to be different colors....it just depends on how that light is reflected.

 

[Newf]

Funny this should come up. My front bumper, in the right light, you can see that it's a different shade of blue. Has been like that since the day I got it. And yes, I've put all of the kms on her. She was brand new

 

[jk7d]

I don't know to what degree the blue is faded on your bumper but I was referring to the whole car changing hues depending on the light. Since the yellow has red pigment in it it really does look like a deeper yellow. If you pay attention the change is quite drastic under different light sources. In the end it makes the car that much more special and also much more difficult to match the paint too.

 

[Jag61180]

I have recently experienced the same problem as you and found a few things out.

My fenter got side swiped so I purchased a new fender and had it painted four times and the color is still wrong.

Our paintcode in paint books read sunburst yellow. We used several diffent kindes of paint, and even took a photo shot and it all came up as sunburst yellow.

The best paint I have found, which is what I beleive the factory uses is PPG, but I might be wrong.

There are three factors that play an important part in our paint match process.
1. Is the primer color.
2. Clear coat
3. Believe it or not how long they let the basecoat dry before adding the clearcoat.

Sunburst yellow when on the car for a few minutes looks like a light greenish-yellow, then as time goes by it darkens. if they apply the clear too early it will stay the shade it was at when they applied it.

Also a clearcoat absorbes the color around it reflecting them to the human eye. Our yellow cars do not have a clear coat, but shops when repainting parts will usually have to clear the paint they use to give it the brilliant shine. So in turn it will give you the perception that is is indeed the wrong color, when it may be closer than you think. Look at the paint in different surroundings, and different lighting. Durring the day it should look lighter, at night it should look darker than the original paint.

Sounds wierd, but true.

Best bet is to clear the whole car.

My two cents.

Peace out!!!!

 

[jk7d]

What you just said - HIT THE DAMN NAIL ON THE HEAD. The yellow looks greenish probably, as you've mentioned, because of clear coat issues.

 

[Jag61180]

Use a light grey or white primor, the darker colors emit the greenish color when mixed with yellow. Plus the lighter colors are covered easily with yellow. I wet sanded mine down (with 1500, then 2000) to minimize the thickness of the clearcoat. Then buffed it back to a shine with diamond cut polish, then followed with a new car glaze.
You need to let the paint sit till it looks pretty close to the right color then shoot clear over it.

If all else fails you can tint the paint. Best results come when you mix as directed by the computer, then add a touch of orange.

From what I have seen, it will never match perfect due to the clear coat.

Once you get it too match in that particular lighting, when you leave and go somewhere else a different color will be reflected and it will not match anymore.

During the day when it is bright as hell the paint matches perfectly on mine as long as I am parked in a parking lot with concrete, not asfault.
At night it looks too dark, in the day on other surfaces, a little light with green tint.

I do not know what to tell you, but if you like the color of the car, then in the future put a little lighter shade of yellow over the whole car, then clear it. It should look simular to the color you have now.
But not the same.

I too like the bright (non-cleared) color of our car, but it seems impossible to get back to it.


Sorry if I am not of much help.

Laters Peeps