P5 versus rsx type-s

[Concept P5]

what headers are those?

 

[MacProtege5]

they are from racingmazda.com they are meant for an mx-6 i think but they fit the head. all you need is two or three slight mods to it to make it fit

 

[afrey2002]

Bradspeed;
At the time of the photo it was photoshopped but right now it looks pretty similar to that.

 

[Concept P5]

what modifications?
and also does it fit without splicing wires or moving the cat?

 

[MacProtege5]

you have to remove the cat, or get a high flow or something of that nature and put it a little further downstream then the stock cat was. if you don't put a cat in you can either get or make an o2 simulator to make the ecm think there is a cat, and you have to put a flat faced flange on the stock piping where it meets up with the header. also you have to get a different egr tube or find something that fits. or just cap it off like i did

 

[igdrasil]

... or just cap it off like i did

hmmm...I was thinking about that, but i thought doing that will throw a CEL. What exactly does that egr do? Recirculate the exhaust gas back to the intake for emission purposes?

 

[MacProtege5]

yes, that is the purpose of the egr, its an exhaust gas recirculation system, it sends spent exhaust gases back through the intake in order to help make the car run more efficiently. i only have it capped right now because i need to find a tube to fit the bung on the header. and no putting a cat simulator in will not throw a cel, thats what a simulator is meant to do is eliminate a cel. the one at zx2 racing is the one i used, works very well. over 1000 miles since i put it in and no cel (knocks on wood)

 

[Shaytan]

RSX Type-S

is way way faster than any protege5, just don't compare that car with ours!

My friend has one, he has 14.4 sec on 1/4 mile! with just a CAI.

and he smoked all zooomzoom's out there,

we smoked a 02' corvette, kept up with the 911 carrera till we hit a tunnel with a curve, where the freaking porsche amazes u, it's glued to the ground!


that's just a few...

 

[Inimical_01ES]

:bs:

Here's a dynograph from Injen's site when they put a CAI on an RS-X S

Let's say this guy had a stock RS-X S... the graph shows 170.8hp before the CAI. A stock P5 puts like ~100hp to the ground maybe less. Let's say all those mods you did you your P5 gave you 30-40whp (generous) that's ~130whp compared to his ~171whp...:wtf:

I raced a well modded RS-X S and kept with him until about 110mph, but I'm running a T4 setup... it's a little different story.

If I'm wrong, great! If not, well....

My $.02

 

[Equinox]

Haha no kidding.

MacProtege5 + turbo
vs.
RSX + 5 fat guys = RSX still faster

Too bad you don't even have a turbo, I could use 8psi blow job.

 

[LinuxRacr]

Inimical said what I said earlier. I have raced them with my turbo, and know that a P5 with no FI, and no built internals would have no chance against the RSX-S unless it was the driver's fault.

 

[cdglowp5]

RSX are slow, I rather have a integra gsr. Talk about sleeper cars with an exhaust and intake it can beat its brother the type R. 15.7 is the fastest rsx type S I seen this summer all stock. My 1991 escort gt stock ran 15.8. After MODS I ran 13.8 All motor in my escort. I only spent 1600 us dollars too. I am still in the process of designing racing cams for our protege 2.0 motor.

see ya

 

[MacProtege5]

hey equinox among others, what is your problem? anyones problem really, i post how i took out a supposedly faster and car even the first post was picking me apart without even asking any questions. everyone just starts picking apart what i said. you want to know what i think of this? i think most people are a bunch of ignoramus' i just don't understand why people have to jump on other peoples backs when all i am trying to do is have a good time, and another thing is i know a lot of people judge what a car runs by what the mags say they do and guess about what a certain part is gonna do to a certain car and all this. its stupid i tell you, the mags have professional drivers which makes a huge difference in time whether good or bad. and i am willing to make a bet that most people don't take into consideration the weather, road conditions and driver skill. i just don't get people anymore i could say more, but i am gonna stop rambling now

 

[LinuxRacr]

hey equinox among others, what is your problem? anyones problem really, i post how i took out a supposedly faster and car even the first post was picking me apart without even asking any questions. everyone just starts picking apart what i said. you want to know what i think of this? i think most people are a bunch of ignoramus' i just don't understand why people have to jump on other peoples backs when all i am trying to do is have a good time, and another thing is i know a lot of people judge what a car runs by what the mags say they do and guess about what a certain part is gonna do to a certain car and all this. its stupid i tell you, the mags have professional drivers which makes a huge difference in time whether good or bad. and i am willing to make a bet that most people don't take into consideration the weather, road conditions and driver skill. i just don't get people anymore i could say more, but i am gonna stop rambling now

Everyone is just wondering how you did it. I know how fast the Type S RSX's are, because I raced a couple, and they have good top end. I remember getting a lot of s*** because I told everyone that I beat a WRX on a corner. How hard is that to believe? Not very if you consider the facts. I put them all there, and I still had haters! In a straight line, the WRX would have killed my stock MP3, but on that corner at around 100 MPH, it could not hang.

 

[MacProtege5]

thats the thing, i tell everyone how i did it, and with what mods i did it, and like you said, they still have to be haters. everyone i tell in person believes me, so why the hell can't people online believe? like i said on the clubrsx board, all i know is i beat him and thats good enough for me.

 

[Equinox]

Well unless the car had a fake type S badge, or a flat tire, you didn't beat em Mac, it's easy as that =) I'm not trying to make this an unpleasant board, but I really haven't heard enough from you to prove anything.

And car and driver said [Protege5s] beat WRXs in the corners as it is, and you have better handling than us, so I believe YOU Linux, heh.

 

[twizyours]

Well personally I belive it could have happened. First people say that a turboed 2.0L couldnt stay with a RSX. Some questions and thoughts I have. First do you have a LSD or changed gear ratios, because are gearbox was mad for 100 to 105 HP (wheels) with low ratios at that for good acceleration so if your increasing power by 70 to 100 percent think about how much power you are probally wasting. I would think that a pro with 130 wheel power might be able to use the gearbox a little better than 170 to 180 wheel power. Just a thought. Second what is the weight of the RSX, because I know the pro is a good weight and that the new civiv si is like 2900 pounds and he took of some weight. THird though is Torque comparo and power band. Yeah maybe he increased his power but 30 but what about torque, I wouldnt be suprised if he increased that buy about 30 to and the band in which power is at. I belive stock we put out mor torque then power. Just some cosiderations to think about everyone thinks about power, but not the whole picture. If you have alot of power and dont put it to the ground well it is not efficiant. like how people go turbo and get power, and seem to forget about suspension, brakes, tuning, etc. It is like a 300 horsepower with bad suspension and no LSD, useless.

 

[LinuxRacr]

thats the thing, i tell everyone how i did it, and with what mods i did it, and like you said, they still have to be haters. everyone i tell in person believes me, so why the hell can't people online believe? like i said on the clubrsx board, all i know is i beat him and thats good enough for me.

You're on the RSX board too? So am I. I post in the United States-->South Forum.

 

[dmitrik4]

what is the weight of the RSX, because I know the pro is a good weight and that the new civiv si is like 2900 pounds and he took of some weight.

weight is ~2730lbs, not much heavier than a stock Pro.

IMO, my ES is a better autoX car than my RSX-S was. the RSX was better balanced (wrt understeer and body roll in transitions), but tough to see out of and not enough traction from the awful tires, esp considering the top-end power. i wish i could switch shifters and trannys, tho...mmmm, triple-synchro'd 1st and 2nd gears.

Third though is Torque comparo and power band. Yeah maybe he increased his power but 30 but what about torque, I wouldnt be suprised if he increased that by about 30 too and the band in which power is at. I belive stock we put out more torque than power. Just some considerations to think about everyone thinks about power, but not the whole picture. If you have a lot of power and don't put it to the ground well it is not efficient. like how people go turbo and get power, and seem to forget about suspension, brakes, tuning, etc. It is like a 300 horsepower with bad suspension and no LSD, useless.

true. i don't think Mac is lying, i just think that it either wasn't as fair a race as he says (sneak attack), the other guy wasn't all out racing, or the other guy was a bad driver. bad drivers KILL the RSX-S's performance. the car does not really forgive you for screwing up, esp in a stright line.

besides, the RSX-S makes almost 90% of peak torque all the way from 2500 rpm. everyone gets the new K-series engines confused with the old B- and H-series, and it's totally different. the K-series has a nice flat torque curve, and makes plewnty of torque as well as extremely linear power. there is a noticeable jump at cam changeover, but nothing like the old GSR or Si, but people equate "noise" with "speed" and assume the new car is slow. it is MUCH faster stock than an GS-R....at least as quick as a Type-R from personal experience (from 60mph to 125). (devil)

besides, from a roll an LSD does nothing at all, and that was the situation here. also, power numbers are obtained form torque. torque is what is measured and that is converted to power. so it's already factored in...otherwise diesel VWs and Dodge Rams would be the fastest machines around, and they're not. why? LACK OF POWER. they put out a lot of force, but they put it out slowly.

i have no idea why some people love to hate the RSX-S so much.

Linux, is arlington near austin? have you seen jdkindle's car?

 

[LinuxRacr]

Accually Arlington is in DFW. I hang out with Bo_Vien and Daddy S an such on the RSX board. Daddy S's (Bob's) 350 Z and JRSC'd GSR are fast.