Online supplier of 3 changes worth of Mazda Oil and Filters?
- Thread starter davefr
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More money to be made using a cheaper product IMO
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- 2014 CX-5 Touring
How can the dealers get by with NOT using Mazda oil for vehicles under warranty?
Looking further on '16+ I don't see a requirement to use the moly oil for extended changes.
https://www.mymazda.com/MusaWeb/pdf/maint_schedules/2016_CX_5_View_Full_Maintenance_Schedule.pdf
Page 6-4
"The onboard computer in your vehicle calculates the remaining oil life based on engine
operating conditions when selecting flexible maintenance. Mazda Genuine 0W-20 Oil and
Castrol 0W-20 Oil are required to achieve optimum calculation performance."
Pre '16 any 0W-20 seems to be ok by Mazda from a "warranty" standpoint.
https://www.mymazda.com/MusaWeb/pdf/maint_schedules/2016_CX_5_View_Full_Maintenance_Schedule.pdf
Page 6-4
"The onboard computer in your vehicle calculates the remaining oil life based on engine
operating conditions when selecting flexible maintenance. Mazda Genuine 0W-20 Oil and
Castrol 0W-20 Oil are required to achieve optimum calculation performance."
Pre '16 any 0W-20 seems to be ok by Mazda from a "warranty" standpoint.
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- Plano, Texas, USA
I wouldn't worry too much about it other than calling them and finding out what kind of oil your dealer is using. I'd also change the oil a little early just for a peace of mind. Dealers are using the cheapest bulk oil they can find and this "Preferred Choice" oil is what my Mazda dealer is using for "free" or "standard" oil change and Mazda moly oil is $10 extra:
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- Plano, Texas, USA
I don't think car manufactures can force dealers to use exact oil they specified. Just like they can't force consumers to use a specific brand of oil they recommended. Back to 2000+ VW started using its 1.8T turbo engines and they specified 5W-40 synthetic oil. But many VW dealers used much more popular and cheaper 5W-30 conventional oil at time. The result was oil sludge law suit again VW of America in 2008 and VWoA had to pay the hefty price for it!
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- Plano, Texas, USA
line supplier of 3 changes worth of Mazda Oil and Filters?
Yeah I think this flexible OCI is great for those driving minimum miles per year. They don't have to change oil in 6 months even if their CX-5 has only 2,500 miles! They can change oil once for a year without incurring any warranty issues as long as they use Mazda Genuine (Moly) Oil to "achieve optimum calculation performance"!
Because the Mazda oil is not a requirement to validate warranty. Neither are molybdenum additives.
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- 2014.5 CX-5 GS FWD 2.5L
I would guess 99% of the population doesn't even know what Mazda Moly oil is. They go somewhere, get an oil change, and drive away, and never have problems. How many people do you know that take their vehicle to a quick lube, and have no idea what they pour in? Up here in Canada, you cannot purchase Mazda Moly oil. They do however, have a Mazda full synthetic, that is repackaged. That's what my dealer uses. I have asked specs on brand or where it comes from, but the dealer either doesn't know or won't give me an answer. IMO, this mazda moly thing is blown way out of proportion. Sure it's probably good oil, but there are lots out there that are just as good or better. I definitely won't use the pictured bottle above (Preferred choice), but any brand name Mobil1, Castrol, Pennzoil, Amsoil are good choices. As long as they meet the proper spec, there should be no problem using it. I'm pretty sure, Mazda doesn't have their own little secret oil factory, making oil just for their vehicles. It's bottled and repackaged for them at a larger facility. I guess Skyactive is a good little engine, but that's all it is, a production line engine, sold by the 1000's. It's not a $250K hand built Ferrari.
For me, I use Castrol Edge Titanium. On sale a few times a year for $30 / 5L jug, and $14 Mazda filter.
For me, I use Castrol Edge Titanium. On sale a few times a year for $30 / 5L jug, and $14 Mazda filter.
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- 2014 CX-5 Touring
I think a main benefit is better fuel economy that many people have reported. I'll start using it for that reason alone.
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- Plano, Texas, USA
Here are a couple of UOAs from the factory-fill of SkyActiv-G engines which showed very high content of molybdenum indicating the factory-fill is Mazda moly oil:
... My first sample:
So it looks like the factory fill is probably Mazda Oil with Moly. TBN shows that I could have stretched it out a lot longer. So for those with brand new CX-5's, stretching out the OCI to 7.5K miles should be no problem. I am going to shoot for 8K mi OCI and will report back.
That is pretty much my take. I believe in using a quality oil (Pennzoil Platinum in the CX-5's case) and the factory filter. While the Mazda moly oil is no doubt a great product, I believe my choice meets the need for performance, protection, and availability.
If I were convinced of measurable, repeatable mileage gains, I would consider the moly. With all of the factors (e.g. tire rolling resistance, aerodynamics, seasonal fuel blends, etc.), I cannot imagine the moly additive being significant regarding mileage. If so, in the competitive lubrication market, every producer would want to tout the benefits and all top-shelf oil packaging would be emblazoned with the "Moly" banner.
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I used the US spec Penzoil Platinum 0-20 from Wal-Mart (silver bottle). So far so good. There's the Euro spec version in same silver bottle and the US spec Ultra Platinum in black bottles available on Amazon or Ebay. These are OEM oil for Ferrari.
The mentioned US spec Penzoil Platinum 0-20 from Wal-Mart (silver bottle) has solid specs given its price point towards Mazda Moly oil hence why I've used it. That said I may try Amsoil Signature 0w20 if I can get a pricing hookup.
Essentially my top 0w20's:
1. Amsoil Signature- Need membership
2. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum (black)- Have to order online
3. Mazda Moly- Most expensive?/have to order online
4. Pennzoil Platinum (Silver)- Cheapest and easy to get at Wal-Mart.
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Good detailed information. And not that price alone drove my decision, but I got a $10 rebate on each of the (two) 5-quart jugs, effectively pricing the Pennzoil Platinum (Silver) at ~$14 per jug. With the Med Center Mazda 3-pack filter deal, my oil changes are <$20 using quality oil and filter. That is good economics IMO.