OK...Who else thinks religion is total Bullsh!t?
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DrummingFrenzy
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Yes if you're going to measure a religion by man's actions then there has to be proof in the religions doctrine that promoted those actions. So say a supposedly Christian man steals money from someone. To say then that Christianity is bad and at fault for this is a farce unless you can show me where in the bible it commands men to steal.
Ok...lemme tag in here:
Organized Religion is run by man, and therefor fallable. However, blaming a religion for things that were accepted and in existance long before it's inception (segregation, chauvinism, slavery, war, etc) doesn't make any sense. The Egyptians had slaves and fought in wars and everything else...so I'm not sure how you can blame those things on the Christians.
However, as I said, the church is fallable (though they think they aren't) and when they sit by and watch tortures, murder, racism, child molesting, etc. and do nothing with their power (and yes they do have some), then they deserve to be called on it.
Organized Religion is run by man, and therefor fallable. However, blaming a religion for things that were accepted and in existance long before it's inception (segregation, chauvinism, slavery, war, etc) doesn't make any sense. The Egyptians had slaves and fought in wars and everything else...so I'm not sure how you can blame those things on the Christians.
However, as I said, the church is fallable (though they think they aren't) and when they sit by and watch tortures, murder, racism, child molesting, etc. and do nothing with their power (and yes they do have some), then they deserve to be called on it.
DrummingFrenzy
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kc5zom said:And most Nazi's were good people. It was the half assed Nazi's that caused all the trouble.
You are trying to act like a religion is static and does not alter itself by the actions of its followers, which it does.
I disagree. If your religion is based around a foundation such as the bible then it is not changed by a man's unwise actions just because he believes in that bible. In fact, in the bible it says, that Jesus or God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He is unchanging. His word was just as true 2000 years ago as it is today. Anything changed is a change made by men and only changes the reflection of the religion, not the religion it self.
kc5zom said:And most Nazi's were good people. It was the half assed Nazi's that caused all the trouble.
You are trying to act like a religion is static and does not alter itself by the actions of its followers, which it does.
This is total bulls***!
Tell me whihc religion the Nazi's strickly fallowed and show me the passages for which they fallowed religions creed.
Also you do know who Nazi's believed they were decendents of right?
Heres a hint it wasn't Judeo-Christians.
Ok everyone aguing take a good look at the quoted post.DrummingFrenzy said:
Many of you are spewing off repedive bulls*** you could pcik up from a god damn stand up comedian and a 3rd grade education. You have little to no knowledge of the bible you so ademently reject.
Drumming as intement knowledge of the bible and can probably without looking break off a LOT of passages for you. It is that which makes him aboe to make a true stand and belief. In no way does this half ass ideal that Nazi's or crusaders were chatholic negate the teaching of love found in those religions.
DrummingFrenzy
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I'm about done with this one Craig. It's like a merry-go-round. We'll just keep going in circles.
The problem is people belief the totaly BS claims of certion groups action are actualy inspired by religion. Truth is they are not. Nor more so then the those arguing with us actualy have a working knowledge of any religion let alone christian religions they are so adement to find flaw in.
Again as I told you I susbscribe to know single religion. I believe all relgions have something to teach us. Ignoring the teaching of any religion or its central message is exactly why racism, segregation and war have been done in its name.
Religion does not promote any of this. It is men that use religion as an excuse to confince fools to fallow them that casue this.
I believe that Man was given eyes and ears with a rational brain so that he can find god on his own terms and does not need a Preist or leader to show him a message or path. Be it by reading, listening to people or experiencing life in an honest and rigous way. You can always get to the same conclusions.
Again as I told you I susbscribe to know single religion. I believe all relgions have something to teach us. Ignoring the teaching of any religion or its central message is exactly why racism, segregation and war have been done in its name.
Religion does not promote any of this. It is men that use religion as an excuse to confince fools to fallow them that casue this.
I believe that Man was given eyes and ears with a rational brain so that he can find god on his own terms and does not need a Preist or leader to show him a message or path. Be it by reading, listening to people or experiencing life in an honest and rigous way. You can always get to the same conclusions.
