oil filter oem vs mobile 1 vs k&n
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wrenchesoffire
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- 2013 Mazda CX-5 Sport
roku for me as well i even run the stock mazda moly 0w20
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robertmazda
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I wonder how most people - me included - would have a valid opinion on this. I mean, unless you've cut open similarly used filters from different brands (and been able to make a real analysis based on that), or paid for some kind of analysis, or found a reliable third party review, how would you really know? I use the OEM filter just because, but how would I really compare that against other brands? I'm sure there are a lot of opinions out there, but I wonder if that's based on fact or just perception.
SayNoToPistons
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For the SkyActiv application, there is a specific bypass valve opening pressure for required flow. This is VERY important for the SkyActiv engines (unlike the old MZR). Therefore the Toyo Roko OEM filter is HIGHLY recommended. Also the filter is renown for superior filtration and build quality. Something very hard to replicate. Fortunately the Mobil M1-108 and M1-110 meet the pressure and quality requirements (after contacting Mobil). I believe Wix is also updating their design to meet the requirements, but for now I am sticking with OEM or the M1-108.
Filter brands have been tested many times, especially over at the oil forum (one particular forum should come to mind). There are SkyActiv oil filter discussions as well.
Filter brands have been tested many times, especially over at the oil forum (one particular forum should come to mind). There are SkyActiv oil filter discussions as well.
After doing some reading im making an informed decision of using genuine mazda oil and filter cor my first oil change.
The Mazda oil filter because it's specifically engineered for the Skyactiv engines and it's no more money than (sometimes less) the higher end aftermarket brands. I've driven a total of 51,000 miles on Skyactiv power trains without any engine issues so I don't see a reason to change. The fact that many of the aftermarket oil filters don't come sealed but the Mazda ones do tells me something about the quality right there. I've also had my fare share of aftermarket parts failures over the years and I know now that nothing is as good as the manufacturers direct fit parts.
Know that ANY aftermarket part made for a vehicle has to comply with the specs it's replacing. So, if there is an aftermarket filter, it has to 'in theory' essentially be the same product. The reason aftermarket companies exist is because dealerships could monopolize parts and sell them for whatever price they wanted to because they would have no competition.
That being said, not all parts are created equal. You could have weak rivets or welds, inferior paper filters inside the filters, etc. As for Mobil 1 products, I used them in my 325 hp turboed car and never had a single problem with them. Would I use it in our vehicles? Sure, why not? However, I would personally stick with Mazda IF the price was comparable and the product was easy to obtain which I know it is.
It comes down to personal preference. Some people like piece of mind and are convinced O.E.M. is the best for their vehicle and nothing comes close. Others do a lot of their own research to find out that sometimes there is a better or equally good product for the same $ or less. Either way, you can't go wrong with mazda or mobil 1.
That being said, not all parts are created equal. You could have weak rivets or welds, inferior paper filters inside the filters, etc. As for Mobil 1 products, I used them in my 325 hp turboed car and never had a single problem with them. Would I use it in our vehicles? Sure, why not? However, I would personally stick with Mazda IF the price was comparable and the product was easy to obtain which I know it is.
It comes down to personal preference. Some people like piece of mind and are convinced O.E.M. is the best for their vehicle and nothing comes close. Others do a lot of their own research to find out that sometimes there is a better or equally good product for the same $ or less. Either way, you can't go wrong with mazda or mobil 1.
Yes, my preference is to use Mazda ones too, and prices are reasonable.
runtohell121
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Though using Mobil would be cheaper, I personally use Mazda Moly Oil + their filter... Not sure if using all Mazda part is the best or not because normally I would use Mobil + Napa or Wix filter in other vehicles. Just because this car is "Skyactiv" and the oil have "Moly" in it, that's the only reason why I'm sticking with Mazda lol. Price: $60 (Mazda) vs. ~$35 (Mobil + Napa/Wix)
Mazda has released a new oil filter for the CX-5 than the one it was released with (and they have quietly given it a new part number). I don't know what changed but presumably Mazda is on top of it.
I use Mazda filters, not because I know they are superior, but because I can be sure it meets the engines requirements. Some third party manufacturers will cross reference a filter that has different bypass pressures.
I use Mazda filters, not because I know they are superior, but because I can be sure it meets the engines requirements. Some third party manufacturers will cross reference a filter that has different bypass pressures.
joemon1984
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PE01-14-302A is the new oil filter. PE01-14-302 was the old one. Dealer wasn't sure what changed but told they cost a wee bit more.
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I use Mazda. Years ago a dealer (Plymouth) put it to me this way: "If the filter fails, who do you want to be responsible for repairing your engine; Chrysler or a company that only makes oil filters?". Makes a lot of sense to me.
Perro del Sol
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- 2003 MSP, Spicy Orange, 2004 Mazda 6 Hatch, 2004 Mazda 6 Wagon
I will share a story with you guys an this will likely give you some insight about the OEM Filter. SpeedSource during one of there races used a K & N Oil Filter, it failed on the SkyActiv D Mazda GX-6 car! just split and oil was everywhere! They currently run the OEM Filters on the current P2 cars, if the OEM are good enough for a race car, they should be even better for a daiy driven vehicle!
Good story and it illustrates the point that if it isn't broken, don't try to fix it.
