now i got power past 5.5K!

[MSMS3]

Yeah, heatsoak while moving. It's simply the denser air to begin with. Please keep your misinformation to yourself.

Exactly. Cold air=dense air=more power. I've owned quite a few turbo cars over the years, mostly several hot modded Saab and Volvos. Same thing with them. It doesn't matter how big the intercooler is, or whether you put in bigger dp/rp and go catless, etc., the thing is just going to produce more power across the entire power band in temps below 55 degrees.

Second point: There's plenty of objective dyno data here with all kinds of differing mods to point out that, yeah, you can swing that tachometer up to 6700 rpm easily - stock or modded. The mods will fatten the power curve and increase its average and maximum hp and torque. But the power curve, regardless of those mods, still falls like a rock after about 5500 or a bit more because of the small size of the turbo.

Short shifting to a higher gear at between 5500 and 6000 is going to produce better acceleration times with our small turbo. The short shift causes the rpm's to fall back into the fat part of the power curve where there is more power being produced, then building back up to the peak in the higher gear. This is better than staying on the throttle to redline in the lower gear. Time slips on short-shifted quarter mile runs and dyno's confirm this.

So, sorry about calling BS on the butt dyno, but the mods discussed in this thread (except removing the IC cover) may fatten up the power curve, may increase the height of the power curve, and improve performance, but they will not move the curve further to the right on the dyno.

About the IC cover. It seems to me that would break the seal between the hood and the IC and actually reduce the amount of cool air getting to the IC. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think it would be better to keep the IC hood scoop sealed.

 

[specvspeedfreak]

lately I've been paying attention to the tach and where my "butt dyno" feels like it really falls flat ... its honestly inconsistent. sometimes its closer to the red then other times> so its gotta be the outside temp...
... as for the IC cover... its not removed.. I broke off the mesh and cut out the cover to the point where the entire IC is showing... Its a good 2 inches on each side plus the mesh removed now... the suction thing is still working

 

[UHATEIT]

do you have a pic of this? I am considering cutting it myself

 

[DaleNixon]

Jesus H. Christ.

 

[specvspeedfreak]

i don't have pics but i got the idea from a guy on the forums... He used a dremel I believe and did a clean job...he cut a lil more than what I did.. I just used sheet metal cuters ( until i get a dremel and clean it up)... I wouldn't recommend what i did cause it will look lousy. The plastic is thick and will crack and break off in pieces....but there was a guy that did the math on just removing the mesh-here you go

it wont let me link you to the other forum: here is the quote

so, i went out to my car and popped the hood, and started measuring that plastic grill over the intercooler. i measured the total possible opening, if there was no grill, to be 276mm X 284mm. this gives me a total of 78,384mm^2. now, i measured the little grates, and went into my favorite CAD program, and made a model to calculate how much area these grates are blocking the airflow. granted, my model is not perfect, but it gives me a good idea. i came up that the grating is blocking 29,792mm^2. wow! now, i think that is a little conservative. lets say instead, it is only blocking 20,000mm^2. 20kmm^2 out of 78384mm^2 equates too approximately 25% blockage, due to that grill. that is a lot! in my fan\heatsink project, the grill that we were using was only blocking 8%, and we found that to be too much! i can't believe that this grill is blocking 25%, even with me calculating on the low side. not only that, but i believe some of the intercooler is still hidden under that plastic, completely blocked from airflow.

now, i know i do not have the correct # of holes, and what not. this was supposed to give me a rough idea. however, i still do not think it will matter that much, blockage is blockage. i dropped my original figure of 29k mm^2 to 20k mm^2. even if i drop it down to 15k mm^2 of blockage, that is 19% blockage, not including the part of the intercooler that is hidden under the plastic. i think this simple mod of cutting away some of this plastic would make a significant difference. again, i do not want to remove it totally, since you need it to form the seal, and force air to go through the intercooler.

 

[60181]

unless you tapped the ECM, you're not going to push the turbo past the limiter it has on there. you don't want to do that anyway as the K04 isn't designed to spin faster than it's peak in the MS3. beyond that and you'll kiss it bye bye quickly.

 

[phillyb]

15min5k and phillyb... you two are douches... Im telling whats really happening you think its just a bs.. I really dont care though.... I know its unusual thats why im posting it...if i can get a vid some how i will.

i was srs. it's not boost, but i can pull from 5500 to 6100 without completely falling on my face