Ive got a MP3, it handles like no body's business, but you all know that. And of course you also all know that the the power is definantly lacking. Ive looked into turbo kits and whatnot, but I dont have 3-4 grand to throw around and i severly doubt that i could install it myself. I was very excited to find out about the mazdaspeed intake and exaust cams that added a claimed 22 hp combined at a very affordable price, but then found out that they would cause my car to fail the emissions test. I live in seattle, and in my county, if your car doesnt pass emissions, you can't liscense it. Anyway, Im purchasing the injen CAI, which will help a very small amount. I need more though, does anyone have any sugesstions? Has anyone installed aluminum flywheels or pullys on their MP3? Give me some ideas for semi affordable power. thanks
Non turbo power?
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cdglowp5
Putting those cams in will not make you fail the emission test. If you take the cats out yes you would fail.
I had a 1991 escort gt with the bp mazda motor. It had a header, decked/port and polished head, regrind cams to 400 lift, 2.50 exhaust from header back, free flow cat, 6.5 mm throttle body, irdium spark plugs, magnacor 10mm spark plug wires, and a weapon R intake with a K/N air filter. I live in Maryland and we have the same standards as california. The car passed and accutually the emissions was lower then a stock escort gt. Oh I forgot the cam gears.
That car ALL MOTOR ran 13.8 @ 101 MPH
I had a 1991 escort gt with the bp mazda motor. It had a header, decked/port and polished head, regrind cams to 400 lift, 2.50 exhaust from header back, free flow cat, 6.5 mm throttle body, irdium spark plugs, magnacor 10mm spark plug wires, and a weapon R intake with a K/N air filter. I live in Maryland and we have the same standards as california. The car passed and accutually the emissions was lower then a stock escort gt. Oh I forgot the cam gears.
That car ALL MOTOR ran 13.8 @ 101 MPH
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cdglowp5
Putting those cams in will not make you fail the emission test. If you take the cats out yes you would fail.
I had a 1991 escort gt with the bp mazda motor. It had a header, decked/port and polished head, regrind cams to 400 lift, 2.50 exhaust from header back, free flow cat, 6.5 mm throttle body, irdium spark plugs, magnacor 10mm spark plug wires, and a weapon R intake with a K/N air filter. I live in Maryland and we have the same standards as california. The car passed and accutually the emissions was lower then a stock escort gt. Oh I forgot the cam gears.
That car ALL MOTOR ran 13.8 @ 101 MPH
I had a 1991 escort gt with the bp mazda motor. It had a header, decked/port and polished head, regrind cams to 400 lift, 2.50 exhaust from header back, free flow cat, 6.5 mm throttle body, irdium spark plugs, magnacor 10mm spark plug wires, and a weapon R intake with a K/N air filter. I live in Maryland and we have the same standards as california. The car passed and accutually the emissions was lower then a stock escort gt. Oh I forgot the cam gears.
That car ALL MOTOR ran 13.8 @ 101 MPH
tommyboy212
Member
where can you find out more about the mazdaspeed intake and exhaust cams?
sundevilMP5
Member
yeah i wouldn't worry about failing the emissions with those changes i don't know how strict washington is with emissions but i know somebody that changed the cams and such and passed without any problems...and that's here in az (we have just as strict if not more emissions standards as california)...you'll probably run into problems when changing the exhaust though...
also...from the cams don't expect too much power from them...probably no more then 7hp...the flywheel won't add any power...it will just make it feel like it because it will improve your acceleration...ummmmmm....i think i covered what i set out to...any other questions??
also...from the cams don't expect too much power from them...probably no more then 7hp...the flywheel won't add any power...it will just make it feel like it because it will improve your acceleration...ummmmmm....i think i covered what i set out to...any other questions??
DooMer_MP3
Member
MILNE,
Read the recent post on Sunbelt performance. I think they make parts for Rodger Foo's P5 which is around 230HP all-motor. Things to note are the cams and adjustable cam sprockets.
Chris
Read the recent post on Sunbelt performance. I think they make parts for Rodger Foo's P5 which is around 230HP all-motor. Things to note are the cams and adjustable cam sprockets.
Chris
DooMer_MP3
Member
chdesign,
Are you running any type of engine management with your current setup? If not, what are you planning on using to get all of those mods tuned together?
Chris
Are you running any type of engine management with your current setup? If not, what are you planning on using to get all of those mods tuned together?
Chris
The cams were being sold at www.SHANERACING.com, they have a whole section of products for the MP3 and P5. On another website however, they were selling the same cams and they had a notice that said they were not smog legal, i called them and they told me that they WOULD NOT pass emissions, thats where i got that information. Also the flywheel would add power, just not at the crank, the decreased weight would make you loose less power to the wheel. Thanks for all the info guys ill check that stuff out.
DooMer_MP3
Member
MILNE,
Are they not California smog-legal or completely not smog-legal? Depending on your emissions tests in Seattle you could be fine. Luckily here in Madison, WI we don't have emissions (yet). It surprises me though with the amount of tree-huggers that live here
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Chris
Are they not California smog-legal or completely not smog-legal? Depending on your emissions tests in Seattle you could be fine. Luckily here in Madison, WI we don't have emissions (yet). It surprises me though with the amount of tree-huggers that live here
.Chris
mazdamp3_18
Member
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- 06 gti, 06 evo IX
I have a lot of plans for my car this year...
Custom Cams
10.5:1 Pistons or possibly 13:1 compression
Larger throttle body
Custom Intake Manifold
AWR Header(SS)
2.25-2.5 exhust with random tech cat
RB Muffler
Stand Alone Engine Management
Lighter Pulleys
Under Drive Pulley
That is just the engine stuff... Keep in mind though im getting most of this stuff VERY cheap and in the end to a typical person that dosent have connections it will cost almost 2 times the cost of a turbo kit....
Suspension stuff will be BAD ASS
Mazda Motorsports Full Coilovers
Tubular Rear sway bar which will be adjustable on the fly
larger front sway bar
Custom front,rear, upper, lower strut bars
sub frame connectors
And a few more tricks up my sleeve....
hopefully ill be finished in 1 years time....
Custom Cams
10.5:1 Pistons or possibly 13:1 compression
Larger throttle body
Custom Intake Manifold
AWR Header(SS)
2.25-2.5 exhust with random tech cat
RB Muffler
Stand Alone Engine Management
Lighter Pulleys
Under Drive Pulley
That is just the engine stuff... Keep in mind though im getting most of this stuff VERY cheap and in the end to a typical person that dosent have connections it will cost almost 2 times the cost of a turbo kit....
Suspension stuff will be BAD ASS
Mazda Motorsports Full Coilovers
Tubular Rear sway bar which will be adjustable on the fly
larger front sway bar
Custom front,rear, upper, lower strut bars
sub frame connectors
And a few more tricks up my sleeve....
hopefully ill be finished in 1 years time....
Hey,
Look at my sig below. I have the FS-ZE engine in my MP3. I am not making as near much power as I should due to the stock ECU being out of tune. I also have the Fidanza Flywheel ( form RR-Racing ), and an upgraded ACT Clutch. I will not fail emissions here in Texas! I probably would if I were to take out the cat.
Look at my sig below. I have the FS-ZE engine in my MP3. I am not making as near much power as I should due to the stock ECU being out of tune. I also have the Fidanza Flywheel ( form RR-Racing ), and an upgraded ACT Clutch. I will not fail emissions here in Texas! I probably would if I were to take out the cat.
I"m not using anything right now but I will be going to a stand alone system fairly soon. Hopefuly I will pull a little better numbers as it sits now than what linuzracer pulled with teh FS-ZE somehow I think those low numbers on teh ZE are fubar but thats just me. Even on a crappy ECU going from 9:1 to 10.5:1 compression should yield alot more than just a 7 hp gain along with the cam......Something in my mind just makes me think its a FS-DE with a intake cam and then teh intake manifold bolted on to make it look like a FS-ZE....I mean externally you can't tell a difference except the intak emanifold and not to say CS cheated you but you could have gotten ganked.
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cdglowp5
Kooldino
I am planning on doing the same mods. 13.8@101mph was on a stock ecu. Decking the head you do need those cam gears.
The engine swap from the FS to the FSZE motor lacks power because it needs cam gears. I think the swap works better in 1999 and 2000 proteges because the motors are similar in looks. And everything switches over.
2001 and 2002 have diffenent wires and no distubutor. Also there is a cam angle sensor. If you do this right turn that sensor just a **** hair you will get a little power. Not to much because if the magnet is to far off the car will not run. Thats what tells the car to fire the ignition at the right time.
I went from 17.1/16.8 in the 1/4 mile to 16.5 @ 82 MPH
I am planning on doing the same mods. 13.8@101mph was on a stock ecu. Decking the head you do need those cam gears.
The engine swap from the FS to the FSZE motor lacks power because it needs cam gears. I think the swap works better in 1999 and 2000 proteges because the motors are similar in looks. And everything switches over.
2001 and 2002 have diffenent wires and no distubutor. Also there is a cam angle sensor. If you do this right turn that sensor just a **** hair you will get a little power. Not to much because if the magnet is to far off the car will not run. Thats what tells the car to fire the ignition at the right time.
I went from 17.1/16.8 in the 1/4 mile to 16.5 @ 82 MPH
Re: Kooldino
Both my Cam Angle sensors (from the old engine, and the new one) rubbed against the Cam Gears, and became dented in. I need a new one. To fix this, the tech put a washer to space it from the cams a little. Maybe getting a new Cam Angle Sensor will yield better results.
cdglowp5 said:
Both my Cam Angle sensors (from the old engine, and the new one) rubbed against the Cam Gears, and became dented in. I need a new one. To fix this, the tech put a washer to space it from the cams a little. Maybe getting a new Cam Angle Sensor will yield better results.
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cdglowp5
Which cam gears are you using????
Nobody sells them yet for the P5.
Nobody sells them yet for the P5.
Re: Kooldino
The FS-ZE swap is the same for both 99-00 and 01+ Proteges man we have the same motor just a destroked version. The 1.8L that is. We do not have a distributor liek you are thinking we are DIS also our coils are just on the side of the motor instead of on top of it. and the 01+ have all teh smae wires under the hood as I do cam angle sensor and everything just like the FS-ZE has a cam angle sensor.cdglowp5 said:
