No More Cel!!! Woot Woot

[tonkabui]

sweet matt! do you think this would work with the awr header, too? just kidding. i know it'll work. anyway, good job.

k, on to more important questions... since your car is no longer throwing a CEL and running rich, does that mean your exhaust no longer smells so much like unburnt gas? thanks.

 

[Matthew]

it smells a bit better, but ive only driven for like 10 miles on it, so im wonderin how long it needs to learn

 

[bud_d]

so you said this is for running with no cat at all. What if Im planning on running hi-flow... same thing?

 

[Matthew]

this will work if you throw a cel

 

[Matthew]

sorry let me be more specific since i was eating.

yes this will work for both setups if you throw a CEL, which you prolly will, but unless you care about the environment, puttin in a high flow cat is kinda pointless unless youre tryin to dampen the sound. reason being, its just as illegal for you to remove one cat as it is to remove two cats. so if youre getting rid of one you might as well just remove both.

 

[bud_d]

I just don't wanna sound like a fart can civic. I'm not a tree hugger

 

[acidbug]

Well the pony express s*** did the same thing..it just adjusts the voltage on the second o2. $20 for a guarenteed cel no cat fix is so good.www.ponyexpressperformance.com. i have noticed a definate gain. The low end is easy. U can keep up with any car in 2k-3k range. AFter that there is a nice power band addition. That cat has to be eliminated...whether by header or hi-flow, hollow cat. Even Racing Beat said that the pre-cat is a power robbing device. If one does anything to the FS-ZE the pre-cat must be eliminated...for the most influential power and torque increases..

How many miles have you put on the pony express cel eliminator?

it smells a bit better, but ive only driven for like 10 miles on it, so im wonderin how long it needs to learn

I heard a 100or so miles...

sorry let me be more specific since i was eating.

yes this will work for both setups if you throw a CEL, which you prolly will, but unless you care about the environment, puttin in a high flow cat is kinda pointless unless youre tryin to dampen the sound. reason being, its just as illegal for you to remove one cat as it is to remove two cats. so if youre getting rid of one you might as well just remove both.

Are you sure that it's illegal to take out one of the 2 cats? I mean if i go to inspections..and for some reason they look under the car & only see one cat..they will fail me and ticket me?

I am not sure about that...maybe differs from state to state...

chas

 

[FrigginGLI]

Make another video of 0-60. See if there is a difference.

 

[Matthew]

Make another video of 0-60. See if there is a difference.

good point i guess i could. hard to recreate the same conditions though, i was making a right onto a road...but anyways i guess i could.

they WILL fail you with just one cat since its illegal to remove ANY emmissions related devices at all...i dont know where people got this 50k mile s*** i heard, that is not true. there are certain time frames where your car will be exempt, but youre no where near the 25 year mark or whatever. they will not ticket you because they dont have the authority, they just wont pass you.

 

[acidbug]

Well..if that happens..i will just remount the stock exhaust header..

Chas

 

[Matthew]

Well..if that happens..i will just remount the stock exhaust header..

Chas

you mean, every year for inspection?

 

[acidbug]

Na..w/ new jersey..it's every 2 years..



Chas

 

[p5sundevil]

eevry 2 yeras is doable, if you have constant access to the parts and place to do the work even once a yr is worth it considering if you want power you are going to have to get that first cat the fock out of there and prob go hi flo with the 2nd(i dont plan on removing both but that is an option also.

Kinda funny when you think about it though, in essence it is kinda illegal then to buy/use a 4-2-1 header cause most new cars will have a precat and so forth. not saying buy really but techinically if you didnt want it to be illegal you couldnt get a header. hehe.

 

[bud_d]

good ole minnesota doesnt have inspections.

 

[TheMAN]

if everything is working good for 2 consecutive drive cycles since the installation, then the MIL should not illuminate

this is an intermittent test, and the MIL can come back anytime, but you should not worry if everything works correctly

yea that makes me wonder if it will ever come on again, but hopefully not. im gonna pm theMAN and see what he has to say

 

[Matthew]

by drive cycles do you mean two driving sessions edwin?

 

[TheMAN]

yes

 

[Matthew]

ive driven about 50 miles since installing and no problems...i need to get a 0-60 video to compare differences, cause i swear im a little faster after the fix

 

[Kooldino]

I have a feeling it won't gain you any HP, but hey, I hope I'm wrong. How much was the thing?

 

[Matthew]

it was 21 bucks shipped to my door. no cel, its been about 150 miles or so, and seems to be getting better gas milage. i swear its either running smoother or gained a few ponies too.