Nitto Crosstec CUV

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2010 CX-9 Touring
I had a flat on my front left tire, and since I have been needing to replace my tires I went ahead and did it. Did not want to wait for the PRADAs from an online source, so I found a local tire shop selling the Nitto CUVs for $670 installed, with hazard, and a 3 year alignment plan, out the door. I will run them a while and let everyone know my impressions.

Any one else on here have Nitto crosstec CUVs?
 
I have the Nitto NT850 tires. They are 10 out of 10 when it comes to dry and wet handling as well as noise, they do wear a little quick. I have not driven them in the snow yet, but expect them to perform poorly in the snow, and in looking at your crosstec tires, think they look pretty similar to the nt850's and likely will not do that great in the snow. (although the nt850 is a little more performance oriented, z rated tire so maybe yours will do better in the snow)

Let us know how they work out.
 
1st try out on ice/slush on a hill - not a good result -cracked up my left front-end and cut down a county sign post - unit is in the body shop getting repaired.
 
I would recommend a body shop that is I-CAR Gold Class certified and who uses Sikkens automotive refinish. Bottom of the barrel refinishes are Sherwin Williams, NAPA Auto Color and PPG. (Sherwin & Napa being the worst), in my opinion.

Sorry to hear about your crash.

If you have any problems with the insurance or the shop, please let me know and I can give you some pointers.
 
Okay and thanks, I will ask them what they use and query them about using the recommended ones.
 
I would recommend a body shop that is I-CAR Gold Class certified and who uses Sikkens automotive refinish. Bottom of the barrel refinishes are Sherwin Williams, NAPA Auto Color and PPG. (Sherwin & Napa being the worst), in my opinion.

Sorry to hear about your crash.

If you have any problems with the insurance or the shop, please let me know and I can give you some pointers.

Well, you know, I decided to take to my dealers body shop and I asked someone there what they used. They indicated "PPG", and told me that Sikkens and BASF(?) were bottom of the barrell - which seemed quite strange to me as no other collision center was making such bold statement. Also isn't PPG is Low VOC water-bourne paint, and the other were solvent-bourne paints? So I then called up Mazda USA to see what they recommended - since my car is currently located at their collision center. I am waiting for MazdaUSA to get back to me this morning. I will let you know what happens.

BTW, I did find and speak to a I-CAR GOLD CLASS certified shop and they have multiple employee that are Platinum certified, I have not not signed up with the Dealer shop yet. the only reason I went to them is that if I happen to have transaxle issues I wanted it to be in their hands vs a unaffiliated body shop. Granted the body shop can send it to the dealer as well as the Dealer's collission shop since it is 3 miles down the road, and the body shop is 1 mile away :D.
 
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There are alot of brands of automotive refinish.
The ones that I commonly see in body shops for the most part are:
1) PPG (this is the most commonly seen, about 10 different brands ranging in quality. A majority will use the cheapest option)
2) DuPont (Standox, Spies Hecker, Hot Hues, Imron) (Standox is another commonly used paint)
3) Sherwin Williams (good for painting barns, which some small tight budget shops will use their automotive paint)
4) AkzoNobel (European, considered the top of the line, aerospace & automotive, several brands, including Sikkens)

Keep in mind, there are some shops that buy the high end PPG or the high end Dupont (Imron), but a majority buy the standard el-cheap-o PPG Value brand.

Also to keep in mind is that alot of the refinish process relies on the preparation of the panels to be painted, how thorough the preppers are with car. With that said, if everything is done right, my stance is that Sikkens color will last longer, and be less prone to oxidation/fade or even paint not adhering to the primer. I have seen alot of cars where the paint falls right off the primer within a couple years of the repair, and while some of this is poor prepping or poor primer, some is also due to budget refinish. Also make sure the shop does not take shortcuts. Shortcuts are "taping off" adjacent parts, or painting a bumper on the car rather than painting the bumper off the car. All plastic parts should be painted off the car. If you are replacing the fender, you have to blend the door, and take all the trim off the door, the mirror, belt moulding, the side moulding (if applicable), the handle must come off, etc.

Alot of shops tape parts off and spray around them, leaving a sharp clearcoat edge that will begin to peel away over the years. In the case of say painting or clearing a door for instance, it is very important to take off the handle to spray the clear around the opening for the handle and the clear will go around the panel edges for the handle opening, that way the handle sits over the top of the clear, vs taping the handle off. Believe it or not, many large scale nice looking boy shops will paint fenders and tape off the bumper, tape off the headlight, etc. This is not cool.


This is just my opinion based on my expertise and input of many body shops and shop owners over the years. Good luck!
 
by the way, if a body shop tells someone that Sikkens is "bottom of the barrel" that should raise some serious red flags.
 
by the way, if a body shop tells someone that Sikkens is "bottom of the barrel" that should raise some serious red flags.

Thanks again hellbigtw; Yes, that did raise some huge flags with me and I still have not officially signed up with them, as I wanted to see what the adjuster came up with. I am awaiting his call. I only spoke to one person at the shop and when I call back, if I get similar answers I will probably pull my car and send it to the other place. Especially if there is deemed to be no transaxle damage.

Mazda called back and said PPG and BASF were both fine, they also indicated that the factory used Nippon (Japan) paint.
 
Well after talking to the guy who will be working on my car, I feel a bit more comfortable leaving the car where it is. He is gonna paint all the parts off the car. He is gonna perform multiple inspection of the car, and that already has panned out as another issue was found and my insurance is issuing a supplemental check to cover it.
 
That is pretty typical. You can have body, structural, electrical, sublet/diagnostic, frame, mechanical and other supplements. With suspension if anything was damaged, alot of times they will replace one or multiple visible bent/damaged suspension components, then perform an alignment, and the alignment sheet will give the caster/camber/toe and if any of those are too positive or too negative beyond acceptable tolerances (i.e. -3 to +2) then that tells you pretty much almost exactly what suspension part is still bent. That is just one reason for "supplements." Alot of other times stuff just creeps up on the shop that was not initially seen and so that has to get added to the estimate.

Make sure that once you get your vehicle back, you get a final copy of the estimate from your insurance company (or if they just have the body shop write the estimate, ask the shop for the final estimate once you get your car back). Alot of times customers get an initial copy but don't actually end up getting the final copy showing all the supplements.
 
My Ins Co has been posting the estimates online, so I have been reviewing them and keeping up with it. But thanks for the advice!
 
Got the car back, had to send it back once for repair of undetected damage. Got that taken care of and car is back. While doing my foglight install, I did happen to notice a plastic part that was damaged and not replaced. I am gonna look at the dealer as to what it is and if it is really/or why was it required. If it is something easy to install, I will, but if it is hard, then it is going back. Car rides great sofar, no issues, seems very smooth and quiet. Handling it where it was, no noises except engine on rapid acceleration.
 
Thanks, i also finished up the Fog lights install and my fog wiring is configured to allow the fogs to turn on independent of the low beams. So I can go parking lights and fogs, fogs, and fogs and low beams.
 

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