Used HP+ on my other car (turbo DSM) and they work great if your primary concern is stopping. I get about 20-30K out of a set of pads and rotors on the street on that car. They dust alot, but I have gunmetal wheels... so I don't care. I have never been able to overheat them, and eclipses are known for being hard on pads. They are expensive though... $120 for pads is alot to me. I also am tiring of the squealing during low speed driving... since these are now worn out I'm going to try out a less aggressive pad and see if they can handle the heat. When my MZ3 needs pads.... I'll likely buy OEM if they aren't priced outrageously. At 25K, my stock pads are still over 50%. I don't auto-X, but I drive mountain roads alot.