My P5 burns a lot of oil

Thanks for posting the information.
I'm old enough to remember cars before PCV valves, which were added specifically to prevent crankcase gases from venting directly to the atmosphere. If the can does that I don't see how the car could ever pass a smog emission check, at least in California.

Thats correct. It may not. But the mod is not permanent and is easily reversible. Its a matter of undoing one clamp. But it has its benefits that are well worth even if it was a pain in the butt to switch back. N/A cars get crank pressure relief, Turbo cars get the benefit of not having the case pressurized and ALL of them get better octane rating and less gum up.

For anyone really concerned about emissions and dont want to switch back and forth, I have a sealed solution as well. This new can design utilizes the stock OE routing, but still catches all the oil, sludge, bow-by and moisture. The only real downside to it is that it requires emptying more often. This is because it uses engine vacuum to draw the air out of the crank case. That causes extra oil to get caught in the can. HOWEVER, it does not cause more than whats already going into the motor to be sucked out. This new design is unlike anything else available on the market today. Pictures of that will come soon.

Here is an example of what its catching:

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Not sure why the catch cans arent more popular than they are????
 
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But it has its benefits that are well worth even if it was a pain in the butt to switch back. N/A cars get crank pressure relief, Turbo cars get the benefit of not having the case pressurized and ALL of them get better octane rating and less gum up.
Turbo is another matter - that changes the intake pressure and screws up the normal function of the crankcase ventilation system, on top of whatever else it might do. I'm only concerned with NA cars that are burning oil. Assuming the crankcase ventilation system is working properly the crankcase will not be pressurized because there are two paths that will keep pressure no higher than the intake manifold. What this has to do with octane I have no idea, unless there is so much oil mist and blow by going back into the intake that it becomes a significant source of hydrocarbons inside the cylinder. The catch can should help with crud gumming up the PCV valve, but on the flip side, the PCV valve is designed to be lubricated by the oil coming out of the crankcase.


This new can design utilizes the stock OE routing, but still catches all the oil, sludge, bow-by and moisture.

Unless excessive, the oil, blow by, and moisture in the crankcase are supposed to go through the crankcase ventilation system into the intake, and back into the motor. If 99% of the exhaust gas goes out the exhaust and 1% gets by the rings, then when the 1% goes back into the motor 99% of it will go out the exhaust. Nothing builds up because, eventually, it all goes out the exhaust. If the motor is generating sludge, that is, tarry hydrocarbons, that would be bad for the PCV, but does that have anything to do with most motors that are burning a little oil?

The picture shows what looks to me like an emulsion of water and oil. Put oil, water, and a tiny bit of emulsifier (possibly from blow by gasses) in a can and shake it at high frequency, like in an engine compartment, and that is what you will get. A little oil is visible on top, either separating out of the emulsion or possible separately deposited from oil mist. The more water in the intake (humidity) the more of this stuff that will form. Common wisdom is that "oil and water don't mix", but that goes out the window when you start adding unknown other chemicals to the mix and shake the hell out of it. That goop doesn't look like sludge to me, as sludge is much darker.

Edit: After a bit of research, it turns out that emulsifiers are a normal component of motor oil, so this is exactly what one should expect to see whenever one shakes a can with car oil and a bit of water in it.
 
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Never had any of that kind of s*** in my catch can, only oil.....and it has no breather cap on it either, only a drain nut on the bottom. The motor "breathes" the same way just a longer route between the PCV and intake manifold with the can in the middle.
 
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Never had any of that kind of s*** in my catch can, only oil.....and it has no breather cap on it either, only a drain nut on the bottom.

What type of can is yours, is the car NA, and how fast does it fill up?

Because of the occasional puff of smoke on start up I am pretty sure my P5 is leaking a bit of oil through the valve seals. A can isn't going to help with that sort of oil consumption.
 
What type of can is yours, is the car NA, and how fast does it fill up?

Because of the occasional puff of smoke on start up I am pretty sure my P5 is leaking a bit of oil through the valve seals. A can isn't going to help with that sort of oil consumption.
I have an OBX can, chrome in bottom right of pic. Car is NA & it took 8-10 months for it to get less than half full the only time I ever emptied it when the car was daily driven. It had nothing but oil in it, none of that beige pudding like in the pic above and no seperate sections of water and oil either just oil. It hasn't even gotten any on the sight glass since then due to not driving it that often. Yeah, if your's is puffing on startup then a can will do nothing.
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Pudding picture looks like a blown head gasket to me.

BTW: Turbo cars have PCV as well - but they are different to be a better 'check valve' and not back-pressure the crankcase.
 

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