Msp Or Ms3

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Do you have any vids of your car I would like to see it in action. And I am not trying to be a dick either, but you were to one saying you car can destroy anything, so that is why I mentioned the STI and EVO

In a few days TBK Performance it's finishing my car, and I'll be more than glad to post, Dyno sheet, Videos, Highway runs pictures etc.. you'll hear from me very soon very soon. keep reading these post..
 
Judge Yourself People, MSP or MS3

MSP or MS3

Side View

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Rear View

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Inside Instrument Panel View

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Driver Side View

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Front Lower View

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A little Closer Front Lower View

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My Demon Child Just Looking At Ya !!!

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My Favorite Picture So Far

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It's not fair putting the MS3 against a titanium!

In all seriousness though, the MSP looks 100% better than it's successor.
 
I'm not trying to be biased, but the msp looks soo much better than the ms3...not saying the ms3 is ugly, and i do think the 3 sedan looks really good, but they can't touch the msp.
 
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I'm not trying to be biased, but the msp looks soo much better than the ms3...not saying the ms3 is ugly, and i do think the 3 sedan looks really good, but they can't touch the msp.

You are not Being Biased, you are just Being Realistic.. My personal opinion and I wish i could add a Poll to see what People thinks.. Anyways Everybody is welcome to come and discuss with us and share points of views, and different aspects about these 2 Vehicles. my personal Opinion I would never Change my Car for any other one in the Whole World...
 
I came into this forum to get more info on the MSP, because I was thinking of getting one, but after reading about there issues (alot of them) I will choose something else. And it is fine to be loyal to your car, but dont think for one minute that the MSP is gods gift to the world.
I think what most have been trying to say, and what keeps getting misconstrued .. is that if you have $30K sitting in your pocket, you have one of two choices.

1. Buy a MSP and invest the extra $10K - $15K (that you saved on purchase price) into building the engine and fixing it's stock quirks.
2. Buy a MS3 and take it as it is, no upgrades.

When comparing the performance of the two cars based on the SAME AMOUNT of invested money, then I believe they're generally even.

Nobody is saying that a stock MSP is the epitome of an automobile. We're loyal to our cars, but for Heaven's sake, we aren't stupid. Of course the MS3, that's $10K-plus more at purchase, is going to have more power -- it damn well better, for that much more money! And yes, we all know that the MSPs have issues. If they didn't, half of this forum wouldn't even exist. But we accept them and are willing to work with them. The MSP isn't an uncurable thing -- but if you buy one and want it to put down more horses, you need to be willing to fix what needs fixing.

Appearance, though .. I'm sorry, but no matter what anybody says to me, the MSP is just a better-looking car.

And so, overall .. combine the uniqueness/rarity of the MSP, the fact that it can basically pull even with a MS3 IF the 'extra cash' saved at purchase is invested in the engine, and that it just looks eleventy bajillion times sexier .. Well, there's my vote. ;)
 
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I am so sick of people saying that the MS3 is a $30,000 car. IT'S NOT

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/con...leCode=MS3&modelYear=2008&skipZip=0&zip=48127

If the dealer marks them up, sorry. But this car is 22K-24.5K. If it was 30K, those cars are going to be sitting there for a long time

Bro what is tha part that you don't understand. I don't care if you show me the website price, when you go to the dealers they price that s*** how ever they feel like it, it is so dificult to understand that ? I've seen a MS3 with Leather seats, Sunroof, Navigation system and some other s*** for a crazy $ 34,500 I even asked the sales person which is was my friend. he told me the new owner has gone insane paying that amount of money with extras he special orderered. like the Navy, sunroof, Leather interior, CAI, and a bunch of stuff more that i don't want to even remember. Just Ridiculous for the car it is. and if you find them so cheap, why don't you run and buy one before you can't... still that car is not worth $ 24.5k even less $ 25k... for what it is.. Love it, or Hate it...
 
Miguel the car looks amazing...... SOOOOOOO damn clean and im sure people arent gonna expect that much power from it..... i know Manuel is probably going crazy with that car and i'll probably see it this weekend when i go to TBK if i do...taking the camera too! haha
 
The EVO MR is available in the US, yes -- but it's NOT the version that was shown in that video. The 'typical' EVO MR stands for 'Mitsubishi Racing' .. whereas the EVO VIII MR FQ-400 is an even more insane version where the FQ literally stands for 'F*cking Quick'. I'm not kidding. Do the research. There were a mere 100 made, and they were made in the UK.

And since I said that on page 6 (with less detail), it must be true! :P.

Someone where I work just bought an MS3, just like the one in those pictures, I'll have to find out who that is :). I actually like the MS3s also, but I have to agree about the looks of the Protege better. Pretty much the nicest looking FWD ever.

That's a sick MSP btw, Mazdaspeed2oo35, I look forward to hearing more about it.
 
I can't understand why people are trying to compare the MSP to the MS3?! Two completely different cars, different power output, both vehicles have there own unique styles and different price range. I don't get it.
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I can't understand why people are trying to compare the MSP to the MS3?! Two completely different cars, different power output, both vehicles have there own unique styles and different price range. I don't get it.
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Because Protege owners are pissed that Mazdaspeed came out with a new platform that outpreforms their car. Its just evolution, like it or not.
No someone will say "yea but the MS3 is so ugly who cares"(rlaugh)
 
Naw, not pissed...the market is asking for cars just like the MS3, the GTI, even the *gasp* STi, and they're bigger and faster than the cars before them. The MS3 in my opinion is fast as hell, can't take that away from it. Stock form vs. stock it will leave a MSP with no problems. It seems as though it's easier to live with on an everyday basis also, so I won't take anything away from it. But just like some people say the last generation Miata is better than the new one (or MX-5) 'cuz some of the "soul" was lost with the added weight. I say just buy what u like and be happy with it. And if your not, trade it in; not like your married to the car. But the one thing I WILL say is, if I saw a MS3 with a sticker price of $22k-$23k, I know ALOT of people over here that will buy it quick! And it would be nice if they put that motor (that in my opinion, is a great motor) in the sedan it would make it even more appealing than it is now.
 
Naw, not pissed...the market is asking for cars just like the MS3, the GTI, even the *gasp* STi, and they're bigger and faster than the cars before them. The MS3 in my opinion is fast as hell, can't take that away from it. Stock form vs. stock it will leave a MSP with no problems. It seems as though it's easier to live with on an everyday basis also, so I won't take anything away from it. But just like some people say the last generation Miata is better than the new one (or MX-5) 'cuz some of the "soul" was lost with the added weight. I say just buy what u like and be happy with it. And if your not, trade it in; not like your married to the car. But the one thing I WILL say is, if I saw a MS3 with a sticker price of $22k-$23k, I know ALOT of people over here that will buy it quick! And it would be nice if they put that motor (that in my opinion, is a great motor) in the sedan it would make it even more appealing than it is now.
Very well said. :)
 
Because Protege owners are pissed that Mazdaspeed came out with a new platform that outpreforms their car. Its just evolution, like it or not.
No someone will say "yea but the MS3 is so ugly who cares"(rlaugh)

lol, lol. Protege Owners pissed ? you have to be kidding, have you seen the Pictures of my Car dude ?Scroll down a bit, and check them out!! Do you think im Jelous or pissed about the new Mazdaspeed Platform MS3 and having more power than my MSP? now you really have a Crush about the MS3 men... by the way what car do you have, Drive or own ? i mean even Stevie Wonder that is freaking blind will notice the difference between them 2.. being faster and having more HP doesn't count in here, cause at these point Im not worry at all if the ms3 had, yes had more power than in these case my msp, we are talking about and if you haven't notice yet, the appearance, handling and suspension, interior etc. NOT HOW FAST , and WHAT ENGINE POWER HAVE
 
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