Msp=evo

[adidas333]

How Would you compare these two? What made you get the msp over the evo?
How come msp bov doesnt sound like the evo's? Sorry im a noob Thanks for the info though

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

You cant really compare the 2. Ones a 290HP AWD car, ours is a sad 170hp FWD...

As far as why the msp over an evo....oh well that was decided by the $10k difference in price LOL

And the MSP has the "turkey" because of the poor BPV system mazda put on these...the turkey is caused by the air bouncing off of the turbine...

 

[Velocifero]

Taylor, if you listen to a stock Evo it too has a quiet turkey. You can hear it easily out on an autox course since it is open ground.

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

ah, ok....well maybe he's thinking the aftermarket BOV sound is the standard sound for the evo then? Cuz im sure 99% of evo owners change that...

Taylor, if you listen to a stock Evo it too has a quiet turkey. You can hear it easily out on an autox course since it is open ground.

 

[Velocifero]

ah, ok....well maybe he's thinking the aftermarket BOV sound is the standard sound for the evo then? Cuz im sure 99% of evo owners change that...

nah, i bet there are more completely stock evos than worked ones

 

[adidas333]

SO your saying putting an aftermarket bypass valve and it would sound much better and louder?

 

[Velocifero]

SO your saying putting an aftermarket bypass valve and it would sound much better and louder?

yeah... and no. Just depends on what route you go. You are not going to get a loud sound out of a BPV, because it is recirculated. If it is sound you are looking for then you need to go with an atmospheric venting blow off valve (BOV). To do that successfully it is easiest to get hard pipes and run a dual set up leaving the stock BPV in location and having a BOV mounted on the cold pipe of the hard pipes. I am actually going to be sellign a couple BOVs here in the future, what kinda sound are you looking for? whip crack, whoosh, or whistle?

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

i still think the easiest way is to relocate the MAF, i will be going that route at some point lol

 

[Velocifero]

i still think the easiest way is to relocate the MAF, i will be going that route at some point lol

didn't work for me. Car ran fine just driving around but couldn't handle it when I went into boost. You are welcome to buy my hardpipes when I get the new FMIC. the hot pipe is already cut up to relocate and I'll even throw in teh reducers to put the MAF on there. How is that easier though, you are still buying hard pipes and a BOV, plus you have to cut them and get reducers? I have been driving on the dual set-up for years now with no problems.

 

[mgerst1]

yeah... and no. Just depends on what route you go. You are not going to get a loud sound out of a BPV, because it is recirculated. If it is sound you are looking for then you need to go with an atmospheric venting blow off valve (BOV). To do that successfully it is easiest to get hard pipes and run a dual set up leaving the stock BPV in location and having a BOV mounted on the cold pipe of the hard pipes. I am actually going to be sellign a couple BOVs here in the future, what kinda sound are you looking for? whip crack, whoosh, or whistle?

If I replace the stock BPV with a Forge BPV will it take the sound back to what it was before I added my Intake? Right now ive got turkey under the hood.

 

[Velocifero]

If I replace the stock BPV with a Forge BPV will it take the sound back to what it was before I added my Intake? Right now ive got turkey under the hood.

I think so, or at least less. You have the turkey stock, an intake just amplifies the sound.

 

[SleepyMSP]

If I replace the stock BPV with a Forge BPV will it take the sound back to what it was before I added my Intake? Right now ive got turkey under the hood.

no it won't the problem is not the BPV but the inlet/outlet size, its too small to move enough air to stop the turkey, take your new intake and cut of the BPV nipple and weld in a 1" nipple, do the same thing with a hot pipe then the BoostSciences RDV and voila no more turkey....otherwise just get a BOV and slap it on the cold pipe and get a cool sound + no turkey

 

[mgerst1]

i heard doing the dual setup can cause fuel cut, is that true

 

[SleepyMSP]

I don't see how, I have never heard of that personally but check out the how to kill you turkey thread in the how-to section there's a lot of good info about it

 

[Velocifero]

i heard doing the dual setup can cause fuel cut, is that true

mazda ecu causes fuel cut, even stock cars can experience it in cold weather. Running a dual setup can cause you to have rich shift points though.

 

[mgerst1]

mazda ecu causes fuel cut, even stock cars can experience it in cold weather. Running a dual setup can cause you to have rich shift points though.

Ah, well as long as the turkey and compressor surge are two different things I think I can deal with the noise until I figure out what I will do to fix.

 

[AtenzaNY62]

um... the msp is kind of, yea 12k cheaper at least, than an evo, used msp's go around 10k with nice mileage... and it is limited in production too wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy rarer than evos

 

[mgerst1]

um... the msp is kind of, yea 12k cheaper at least, than an evo, used msp's go around 10k with nice mileage... and it is limited in production too wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy rarer than evos

That is true, i got mine in November for 12,500 with 28,000 miles on it. I love the fact that it is rare, when I took it to the mazda dealership by my house to get it inspected (I live in MD but I went to virginia to buy it) it was the first MSP they had seen since 2004. I also like that even though the car is rare it is still easy to find oem and after market parts for it at resonable prices.

 

[SleepyMSP]

Ah, well as long as the turkey and compressor surge are two different things I think I can deal with the noise until I figure out what I will do to fix.

ummm....turkey = compressor surge

 

[mgerst1]

ummm....turkey = compressor surge

Damn I thought they were the same thing, I put that out there hoping someone would agree, honestly, is it really bad?