MSP beats Trans Am WS6!!!!11

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somehow i doubt destroyed would be a propper word for what you say you did. i can tell you right now that it wouldn't happen if it were car vs car on a long straight section of highway. i've owned both and the LS1 just hauls ass. it'll point the baby 4 banger turbo in its place any day.
 
Nice comparison write up. I have to say that I have a special love for Firebirds as I used to own a 67. *sigh.... my first car.....
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damn those for sale signs and stupid decisions.:o
 
MikeyK 5 said:
And make a thread mentioning the MSP being better than the WS6 that isn't complete made-up racer fantasy ;)

apparently pska didn't catch that.

Familia, that is a beautiful car. I mean, I know we all love our proteges, but why did you get rid of that '67?
 
well... when you're 16, low on financial funds, have to have a second car as a daily driver, took a reckless driving ticket to court, and no where to store your car....... you have to make a choice. :'( If i was only 21 at the time I would have been able to try harder at keeping it around. But sadly it didnt work out that way. But the guy who bought it collects older cars so at least it went into good hands. :'( :'( :'( :'( And maybe someday when I get a house, I'll try to track it down and buy it back. But for now Im just gonna stick to working on what I have.
 
Ummm, sure you did. I beat those parked cars all the time too.


Pska said:
Guys, I hate to say i told you so. All of you who have been on the board for any length of time remember that I indeed destroyed a WS6 on a straight line. So this guy is totally right. And im glad that someone finally agrees with me.
 
i own both...actually mine isnt a WS-6, or an LS-1...LT-1 here...but i absolutely love that car...i've never had any problems with the interior, and in general it's a pretty reliable car...for being 10 years old and a daily driver for all 10 of those years, it has held up really well. and it can still kick my MSP's ass...no, it doesnt handle as well, but damn does it haul in a straight line...

and as far as looks, the formula looks soooo much better...gotta luv that ass....:)
 
i'd take my 00 Trans Am back over the MSP. i paid less per month for that than i am the great pumpkin. plus its sooo much faster its not even funny
 
Pska said:
Guys, I hate to say i told you so. All of you who have been on the board for any length of time remember that I indeed destroyed a WS6 on a straight line. So this guy is totally right. And im glad that someone finally agrees with me.

You beat a V6 firebird with different wheels.
You admitted this.

Pska said:
This morning I was driving back from my girlfriend's on the way to work, and was experiencing the exact same cooler morning air and my MSP was lovin it. well lowe and behold I ran into the WS6 again (i guess we take the same route to work) I rolled down my window to ask tell him nice car etc etc and he's like "Yea I remember you yesterday, your car's really nice blah blah" Turns out he drives a ******* V6 transmarobird and slapped on the WS6 emblem and spoiler! WTF?! He was telling me "I just wanted a car that looked cool blah blah" I told him good job, he duped me...

I guess that explains why I actually thought he was trying to race me (cuz he was) but it just wasnt a real WS6... So boohoo for me, i only got a V6 (i wouldnt have even listed this as a kill)...

So officially:

"I'm sorry everyone, I was duped and so were all of you (weel prolly 2 or 3 of you believed me) to those who called BS, you were right and im sorry.

~The Apolagetic: PSKA

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28168&highlight=WS6

I don't want to relive this, and I am sure your kidding aswell :)

Either way, good write up and glad to see this stay in the relm of usefull and not flame wars
 
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Tommy1005 said:
just a funny side note. Some chick in a trans-am pulled up to me at a light the other day and wanted to race. So, I, as always, decided why not. Well, turns out she couldn't drive, so I got a kill on a Trans-Am :) I myself love the Trans-Am except for the electrical problems associated with it. That's actually the only reason I bought the Mazda.


a kill? wtf is a kill? oh i see. its when you beat a girl on her cellphone who didnt notice the light turn green. my cat could beat you in a convertible automatic trans-am with the a/c on.


in reply to the prev mention of the wrx, how come nobody does a compariosn to the wrx? i think we know how that would turn out. WRX>MSP . in looks close but edge wrx (personal pref.) , performance (straight line and handling-awd), value (awd 227 hp turbo for $25k, still seats 4, has a trunk and headroom), quality (contains recaro and momo parts from the factory), uniqueness- MSP due to availability (jerkit). my $0.02
 
Familia323 said:
well... when you're 16, low on financial funds, have to have a second car as a daily driver, took a reckless driving ticket to court, and no where to store your car....... you have to make a choice. :'( If i was only 21 at the time I would have been able to try harder at keeping it around. But sadly it didnt work out that way. But the guy who bought it collects older cars so at least it went into good hands. :'( :'( :'( :'( And maybe someday when I get a house, I'll try to track it down and buy it back. But for now Im just gonna stick to working on what I have.

maybe i'll track it down myself. :D
 
Why did you feel the need to bring this back up?

People compare the MSP to the WRX all the time. Stock for stock, the WRX has better acceleration form a dig and the MSP is a far more capable in handling. With money and mods, anything is possible so its a pointless conversation from that point.
 
Newf said:
good comparison, and fair. I loved the ws6. Was thinking of picking one up....until I drove one, and I said....you want how much for this thing????

Yeah, the interior is CRAP. The leather is also CRAP. Then again, it is a pontiac and all their interiors are crap. All GM's for that matter. When are they ever going to use better plastic in these cars, and ditch those silly pathetic stereo's?

Anywho, the engine does sound sweet as hell on the ws6, and god damn can they move. But, with 325 horses, they better f'n move. I can't say I liked the handling in those cars at all, too loose and no road feedback at all except for the harshness of the ride.

Still wouldn't mind having one for a project car, and a "i'm going to go out and roast some tires car"

But otherwise, I'll take my much cheaper MSP. even if they were the same price.....I'd still take my msp.
well, my mom tried to ditch that pathetic stereo out of her van cause they cost 800 to replace when hers fried...we found out that that stereo is the central nervous system of the car..yup, that crappy stereo has the cars computer in it...******* briliant idea huh? and apparently it's a b**** to rewire
 
do the same thing to a VW, wire it wrong and a scan tool won't work anymore.
 
1sty said:
Why did you feel the need to bring this back up?

People compare the MSP to the WRX all the time. Stock for stock, the WRX has better acceleration form a dig and the MSP is a far more capable in handling. With money and mods, anything is possible so its a pointless conversation from that point.
*edit*- just now realized i resurrected a year-old post. my apologies. i came here via search engine and somehow got plopped into last years threads. (uhm) what's funny is more people replied :D
i compared it to the wrx because the wrx is my favorite car. you think the msp can outhandle the wrx? i'm not disagreeing because i own neither and apparently you own both, i'm just suprised. when you say money and mods nullify, wouldnt you also be referring to the msp/firebird comparison as well? seems you would put that right on the table from the get-go, and henceforth banning all car comparisons forever. i was kind of going for more of a stock comparison, similar to the previous comparison. but thanks for your concern. i'm keeping in mind that you are fully allowed to turd on me because this is my 3rd post, and that was you nine millionth. not to mention the ownership factor. damnit, nobody likes the new kids unless they're from another country.
 
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norcalrex said:
*edit*- just now realized i resurrected a year-old post. my apologies. i came here via search engine and somehow got plopped into last years threads. (uhm) what's funny is more people replied :D
i compared it to the wrx because the wrx is my favorite car. you think the msp can outhandle the wrx? i'm not disagreeing because i own neither and apparently you own both, i'm just suprised. when you say money and mods nullify, wouldnt you also be referring to the msp/firebird comparison as well? seems you would put that right on the table from the get-go, and henceforth banning all car comparisons forever. i was kind of going for more of a stock comparison, similar to the previous comparison. but thanks for your concern. i'm keeping in mind that you are fully allowed to turd on me because this is my 3rd post, and that was you nine millionth. not to mention the ownership factor. damnit, nobody likes the new kids unless they're from another country.
I don't crap on anyone unless they really piss me off or are an obvious troll. You haven't proved either. Yes an MSP handles better the WRX stock for stock. The MSP handles better then the WRX once the WRX is even hihgly modified. Hell the MSP handles better then my STi. If you need a more well known refernece, the MSP will out handle an Integra Type R.

Comparing 2 cars in a broad sense using two examples that are moddified, isn't really comparing anything except money spent. You can compare them as a single case, but not logicly as represneting all of their respective models. USing your example, how can someone compare the MSP to the transam in a general sense if the MSP was radicly modified? If someone going to compare general attributes about cars, then I find it best to do that form their stock forms. Such as the MSP handles better then the WS6. The WS6 on the other hands is going to out accelerate the MSP in any range. Surely modifing one can get it closer to the other ones advantage. Money can make an MSP accelerate neck and neck with a WS6. Money can also make an WS6 carve the road like an MSP. But that same money can be spend on either car to make it an even larger gap.


By the way, welcome to the site.
 
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