MSP(0) Vs S200 (1)
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Any car can beat any car any day of the week.
Just the other night coming home from school, some guy in a SE-R Spec V decides he wanted to race me. I didn't realize what was going on until he had already taken off. Well, by the time I reacted, he already had like 2 or 3 car lengths on me. Well, as soon as I downshifted to 3rd at 80mph, I caught up with him. Then when I shifted to 4th, I started to put bus lengths on him with no problem. It took a few seconds to catch up to him, but it was over after that.
Moral of this story,.....I'm sure he's on some SE-R forum somewhere bragging about how he beat an S2000. But he's conveniently leaving out important facts like, I don't go out looking for races therefore I am never at all prepared when some kid in an econobox tries to race me. Him, I'm sure he always has his hand on the stick just ready to downshift as soon as he sees a Civic with stickers on it.
Overall moral of the story, the MSP can't beat any stock S2000 unless they have thousands of $$$$ worth of mods,.....or a gutted interior.(seats and all)
Just the other night coming home from school, some guy in a SE-R Spec V decides he wanted to race me. I didn't realize what was going on until he had already taken off. Well, by the time I reacted, he already had like 2 or 3 car lengths on me. Well, as soon as I downshifted to 3rd at 80mph, I caught up with him. Then when I shifted to 4th, I started to put bus lengths on him with no problem. It took a few seconds to catch up to him, but it was over after that.
Moral of this story,.....I'm sure he's on some SE-R forum somewhere bragging about how he beat an S2000. But he's conveniently leaving out important facts like, I don't go out looking for races therefore I am never at all prepared when some kid in an econobox tries to race me. Him, I'm sure he always has his hand on the stick just ready to downshift as soon as he sees a Civic with stickers on it.
Overall moral of the story, the MSP can't beat any stock S2000 unless they have thousands of $$$$ worth of mods,.....or a gutted interior.(seats and all)
Stormtrooper77
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I just kind of laugh at these racing/kill stories because how exactly do you know that the other guy is racing? Do you have a remote camera in his car?
Exactly. There has been several times when kids in Cavaliers or even saturns have kept zooming past me trying to get me to race them. Then I give them a quick burst of speed in 2nd or 3rd gear to show them that they don't want any. Then they fly past me with the flashers on. (rofl) I just can't help but to think, "are they really that dumb?"Stormtrooper77 said:
some body really loves his s2000, and whats with making fun of our econo boxs( mines more like a rectangle lol), where not all lucky enough to have mega bux to throw out on a s2000, and the only reason anyone wants to race people that own one is they will alway race u, plus i like to see a car haulin some ass even if it is beating me. which is the usual case...lol
tritonheat1
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big_ben said:
Yeah, "Just liked i figured" a negative response in a simply put way. Ummmmm,.....ok. LOL Man Coming from a MP3-T. Then going to a S2000 Doesn't make you a (VTEC) King. I understand you love your S2000 and all, but like you "said" there's alway's something Better out there. BTW It's been Proven so many time's that a MSP doesn't need no more than $2500 to run 13's. Like i said I bet FORCEFED/ Yashooa/ Or even Lawerence would Give you a run for your money. Example FORCEFED has Boost controller and D/P and ran a 14.07@100MPH in the 1/4mile. Show me where he needed Some $$$$$$$$ to run those #'s coming from stock #'s as best as 14.9-15.1.2sec 1/4mile times. Also Just to make you Happy a S2000 would beat a MSP (STOCK VS STOCK).
tritonheat1
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jaje said:
So your saying you can beat a 00+Mustang GT??? Also Mustang's don't run high 14's they run Low to mid 14's Stock. I don't know where you got your #'s from but, you need to do some research on car's before you start Misinforming thing's.
this is a funny statement coming from a guy who is claiming that a slightly mod'd msp owns stock s2000stritonheat1 said:So your saying you can beat a 00+Mustang GT??? Also Mustang's don't run high 14's they run Low to mid 14's Stock. I don't know where you got your #'s from but, you need to do some research on car's before you start Misinforming thing's.
did you even tend to ask what elevation they are running at, what the temperature is?...these are racing conditions that dictate how fast a car can go and not what a magazine can get with hard launches and complete abuse of the car...a stock gt won't run low 14 1/4s in real life without help (sorry but its true...at the drag tracks it's high to mid 14s and that's with the typical removal of spare tire, jack, mats, sometimes backseats, etc...magazine tests are poor as some cheat so they get better times and claim they can wring out more performance out of a car...a stock camaro can run low 14s stock as it has a lot more torque than the stang (stang has a better breathing engine that the ancient pushrod v8 in the camaro...but here cubic inches and old school experience win in the 1/4 miles)
my car runs 6lbs of boost running through a t3 super 60 (i good midrange and high end turbo) and stay with stangs and camaros often beating them (depends on how hard I launch the car)...in a road race at only 2,800lbs versus their 3,500lb girth its not a contest
Hey flaming Ben,
BTW: I might seem bias regarding the S2000, but I think it is a b**** car!
Now with that said. I can tell you right now, I have driven and I have raced an S2000. Just because you have an over priced 4 banger that a S/C miata could spank for half the money, doesn't mean you know that much!
All of you Honduh owners are the same.
Examples:
VTEC RULES!!!!!!
I just go into VTEC and boom! gone!
I raced this Ferrari and he had a taste of my VTEC when I shot past him!
You should have seen the look on his face when he noticed that I had VTEC!
No MSP can beat me because I have my God Damn VTEC!
If a car doesn't have VTEC then it is just slow!
Shiznet that bastard thought I wasn't runnin VTEC until , BOOM, I hit VTEC and rocketed past the fool!
All of you are exactley the same! I don't give a **** about VTEC. dual lobes on a cam shaft that maximize an engine throughout the RPM range. Who Cares? I don't! You bring your overpriced 4 banger with the ultimate VTEC and we will race. I am not telling you that I can beat you stock, but I can make sure that you know that you spent too much money on the VTEC when I am still next to you or close to you by the end of the 1/4 mile. That is why I say that a modified MSP WILL most likely smoke the all mighty VTEC S2000 girlie car.
Thank you all and have a great night dreaming of VTEC...
BTW: I might seem bias regarding the S2000, but I think it is a b**** car!
Now with that said. I can tell you right now, I have driven and I have raced an S2000. Just because you have an over priced 4 banger that a S/C miata could spank for half the money, doesn't mean you know that much!
All of you Honduh owners are the same.
Examples:
VTEC RULES!!!!!!
I just go into VTEC and boom! gone!
I raced this Ferrari and he had a taste of my VTEC when I shot past him!
You should have seen the look on his face when he noticed that I had VTEC!
No MSP can beat me because I have my God Damn VTEC!
If a car doesn't have VTEC then it is just slow!
Shiznet that bastard thought I wasn't runnin VTEC until , BOOM, I hit VTEC and rocketed past the fool!
All of you are exactley the same! I don't give a **** about VTEC. dual lobes on a cam shaft that maximize an engine throughout the RPM range. Who Cares? I don't! You bring your overpriced 4 banger with the ultimate VTEC and we will race. I am not telling you that I can beat you stock, but I can make sure that you know that you spent too much money on the VTEC when I am still next to you or close to you by the end of the 1/4 mile. That is why I say that a modified MSP WILL most likely smoke the all mighty VTEC S2000 girlie car.
Thank you all and have a great night dreaming of VTEC...
Formula1 said:
None of what you just said made any sense at all. You have just made yourself look completely braindead in front of everyone on this forum. Congratulations!
I'm sure that anyone who know's me from this board know's that I loved my MP3-T while it lasted and I still think MP3's and MSP's are great cars for the money. No it doesn't take lots of money to own an S2000. My car payment went up from $331/month to $336/month. And since I just turned 25, my insurance just got cut in half.
No Vtec doesn't rule. But Vtec in an S2000 rules an MSP.
But you said that they ran a low 14 at 100mph? Damn that's fast. That's what the stock S2000 is capable of. The best time I've ever read of is a 13.7 @ 103mph from a stock S2000.
But, what psi was he at and how long is his motor going to last at that level? Very important questions. I could rig a Pinto to beat an S2000 with a 200 shot of N2O, but will it ever drive again afterwards? No.
ignorance is bliss with this guy...and he calls himself "formula1" where variable valve timing was developedFormula1 said:
to dolts like this...forced induction or displacement is the only way to make power...without such you are probably dumbfounded and trying to explain to you why such an invention is good is useless
now why don't you put your $ where your big mouth is and race a s2000 with a "slightly modified" msp...i bet to you that meant full EMS, larger turbo, nitrous, etc.
Jaje,
I don't recall directing any comments to you. But if you want to defend flaming Ben then do so. Your TSX, yeah, smoked one the other day. As for S2000, no problem through 4th gear. I am stock, and if you had an S2000 and you were here, I would put money on it. I never once said that variable valve timing was bad. It is great way to expand your powerband. All I am saying is that it is not the end all of engine technology. Formula 1 also pioneered Turbo technology, but you failed to include that in your response. Of course I am not keeping count concerning the ignorant remarks that you have made. I find this forum amusing and entertaining. As for half the s*** that comes out of most of you, I could care less. For all of the people that have raced a S2000, I will give them credit. Stock vs. Stock, there is no doubt that the S2000 will win, but from experience, a slightly modified MSP willl keep up with one with no problem.
I will await your response. I enjoy the comments. All of you are cheap entertainment. Keep up the good work. LOL
I don't recall directing any comments to you. But if you want to defend flaming Ben then do so. Your TSX, yeah, smoked one the other day. As for S2000, no problem through 4th gear. I am stock, and if you had an S2000 and you were here, I would put money on it. I never once said that variable valve timing was bad. It is great way to expand your powerband. All I am saying is that it is not the end all of engine technology. Formula 1 also pioneered Turbo technology, but you failed to include that in your response. Of course I am not keeping count concerning the ignorant remarks that you have made. I find this forum amusing and entertaining. As for half the s*** that comes out of most of you, I could care less. For all of the people that have raced a S2000, I will give them credit. Stock vs. Stock, there is no doubt that the S2000 will win, but from experience, a slightly modified MSP willl keep up with one with no problem.
I will await your response. I enjoy the comments. All of you are cheap entertainment. Keep up the good work. LOL
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Hey formula1..stop pickin on Big Ben he contributed allot of into and help to all on this forum..where as you have not!
he was turbo'd before you knew what a turbo even was...LOL..
Your right about some honda owner claiming v-tec is the s***...when the truth is that my lugnuts need more torque than those civics put out! LOL
I like those h2k...but they are 2 entirley different cars..that really can't be compared!
So back up off it formula1..and find yourself some other place to flame people!
Chas
he was turbo'd before you knew what a turbo even was...LOL..
Your right about some honda owner claiming v-tec is the s***...when the truth is that my lugnuts need more torque than those civics put out! LOL
I like those h2k...but they are 2 entirley different cars..that really can't be compared!
So back up off it formula1..and find yourself some other place to flame people!
Chas
F1 pioneered turbo technology?...the first turbocharged engines were first produced by Daimler Benz in the early 1900s (F1 didn't exist back then...it wasn't until 1950s when what we can call F1 appeared)...in fact F1 didn't use turbos until the late 70s through the 80s...F1 never invented the turbo nor pioneered it...however as with most forms of racing such as rally, etc which also had turbocharged competitors it did improve the technology...we are also forgetting CART in the 90s which also helped improve the technologyFormula1 said:Jaje,
I don't recall directing any comments to you. But if you want to defend flaming Ben then do so. Your TSX, yeah, smoked one the other day. As for S2000, no problem through 4th gear. I am stock, and if you had an S2000 and you were here, I would put money on it. I never once said that variable valve timing was bad. It is great way to expand your powerband. All I am saying is that it is not the end all of engine technology. Formula 1 also pioneered Turbo technology, but you failed to include that in your response. Of course I am not keeping count concerning the ignorant remarks that you have made. I find this forum amusing and entertaining. As for half the s*** that comes out of most of you, I could care less. For all of the people that have raced a S2000, I will give them credit. Stock vs. Stock, there is no doubt that the S2000 will win, but from experience, a slightly modified MSP willl keep up with one with no problem.
I will await your response. I enjoy the comments. All of you are cheap entertainment. Keep up the good work. LOL
no one ever mentions what a slightly mod'd msp has?...larger turbo?...boost turned up to 15lbs (around the limit of the t28)...my t3 super 60 will go well beyond that...just the engine and tranny can't handle it
i've raced and beat msps at the track...they think they are the s*** and watch srt4 neons destroy them in straights...now a srt4 can stay close to a stock s2000 [drivers make a big difference] and by a logical conclusion to your argument a slightly mod'd msp can keep up with a srt4?
i'm in this forum for s**** and giggles...but at least have over 10 years of engine building and wheel to wheel racing experience...to me assumptions mean little to cold hard fact
its nice you want to race a tsx...that's your perogative...i guess i'll look out for you on the street...the guy in the msp trying to race everyone just to prove something
tritonheat1
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jaje said:
First off, #1. I don't know if your illiterate or not, But i never said a slightly mod'd MSP would own all S2000's, reffering in your"statement". (MSP OWNS STOCK S2000's). #2. like i said before you start Flapping your Gum's, do some research. If your gonna compare Drag or track #'s then let's go by those then, b/c the best i've seen at the track for S2000's are 14.4-14.5sec 1/4mile time's but i'm aware that a S2000 can run anywhere from 13.9-14.1 1/4mile times. Same goes for 00MustangGT's, i've seen best at the track 14.3's 1/4mile times, which we all know GT's can run best 13.9-14.0flat 1/4mile times. I know all driver's are different so those #'s are the best i've seen at the Track, which there is somebody else that can probably achieve a better track time, but that's the best i've seen. I haven't seen any MSP's down here at the track, but i'am sure ForceFed/Yashooa/lawerence is a Competitive driver who can proabably achieve better times than any other Driver. Everybody know's that a MSP isn't all that, and isn't near the same class as a S2000, but if the mod'd MSP can run with a Stock S2000, why not compare 1/4 time's if there the same.
its all about the driver. people dont know how to drive these cars they get. So its not unlikely that msp killed s2k. I have killed many cars that should have easily taken me out with the right driver behind the wheel. ITS 90% driver and 10% car... if we are talking actual roads and not just straight line s***.
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Sh*t I destroyed an S200 the other day in my P5.......................while playing GT3
