Mpi, the best? (best tuneing ecu

[Focus]

This is such a trick question. BEST ENGINE MANAGEMENT.

All the above units have their merits and their downfalls. As for the MPI, it has the most threads, becaause it has the most sales. It is in proportion of the number of units out there.

I am sure the end result is the same with all management systems. But don't knock other units. The person was asking what his options are, not what our opinions on all the units out there.

I cannot speak for the Haltech or AEM or emanage or any other since I never used it. One thing I can tell you, the MPI has made my MSP the fastest one out there. And I had my share of problems along the way, I overlooked two wires.

Bottom Line: ALL management systems are capable of doing the job.

 

[low_psi]

If you want driveability issues taken care of but with some more power w/o having to tune it yourself, get the Unichip. You can always have it tuned realtime by Unichip tuner. You don't have to hack up your harness to put it in.

The Haltech is a tried and true unit, but requires splicing. Hella good though.

One aspect of the MPI tuner that turns me off is the adjustment unit increments. They are arbitrary, ie. to retard timing 1 degree, you can't just put -1, cause its not a whole degree. Nick gives amazing support though, and there are lots of people running it. You can get maps to tweak from a lot of different members.

The AEM is amazing. I've seen it first hand on a turboMP3. If you want end-user programability and a very powerful unit, AEM is THE option.

 

[mp5jeff]

I hear that the greddy e-manage is pretty good and its only $319

thats just for the unit itself, once you start getting into buying harness', etc..you can spend near 1k for everything.

 

[CasopoliS]

This is a good thread. Took a turn there for a second....glad it leveled out.

I am also doing research on engine management. My engine also needs tuned like crazy.....and I would much rather learn how to do this myself than paying someone to hourly. The Greddy e-manage seems inexpensive. Would I need the optional harnesses? Is there a thread out there that explains these systems a bit better as far as installs and directions of use? Thanks. I have been searching....and will continue.

 

[chkmgnt58]

focus, just wondering, how are you tuning your timing w/o a j&s???? b/c if you know some trick i'd like to know...
also what psi are you running and have you gotten a dyno on your current setup?

 

[orangezoom]

IMHO the AEM is indeed the best, even better than the Haltech e6x. anyone who has played with the AEM software (which can be d/led free btw), or knows its features would agree. but it is also the most expensive option, worth it for some, not so for others.

Beau is making it full plug-and-play, literally, plug it in, load the map and go, (or set to auto-tune if you have the wideband, then fine tune it) as far as I know it is the only REAL plug and play option available (very soon) as even Juan's Haltech harness has a bit of hard wiring to do.

seriously though, all these options work to one degree or another, so pick the option that (features/price) makes the best for you. I am getting the AEM EMS and I'll be happy to give reviews of it once its installed along the MAM thumper kit in my car

I thought Wagner was doing the AEM?

 

[Focus]

focus, just wondering, how are you tuning your timing w/o a j&s???? b/c if you know some trick i'd like to know...
also what psi are you running and have you gotten a dyno on your current setup?

I don't play with the timing, I have about 7 degrees pulled. running at 17 psi now and hopefully can get to the dyno this week.

 

[RyanJayG]

I thought Wagner was doing the AEM?

they are from what I understand, but their version isn't plug and play as far as I know because of some cam gear grinding you have to do. Not to mention Beau lives and works very near to AEM themselves, and has their help in the making of his version of the AEM EMS.

 

[insanoman2005]

there's no cam gear grinding...you have to replace the exhaust cam gear since the stock gear uses 3 pick-ups and the AEM can only register 1.

 

[RyanJayG]

well Beau has figured out a way to not have to do this

 

[spicymofo]

Subscribing, hoping for some more info

 

[mazdaowner123]

^same.

good thread.

~brian

 

[Nightmare]

God damnit. Shut up all of you.

Engine Management is not a religion.

BAHAHAHAHAHA (stupid)

 

[goku4658]

If you want driveability issues taken care of but with some more power w/o having to tune it yourself, get the Unichip. You can always have it tuned realtime by Unichip tuner. You don't have to hack up your harness to put it in.

sounds perfect for my needs!

 

[Lil Freek]

subscrizzle

 

[kicker22705]

i read unichip is coming out with a stage II. comes with injectors. unichip may not be a bad option for serious hp either but it'll prolly cost an arm and a leg.

 

[chkmgnt58]

only issue i have w/ unichip is that if you make any mods after you get it put in, you have to find a unichip dealer to tune it, and thats usually about 500 bucks. but its a nice unit if you just want the added hp and driveability w/o serious modding!

 

[goku4658]

only issue i have w/ unichip is that if you make any mods after you get it put in, you have to find a unichip dealer to tune it, and thats usually about 500 bucks. but its a nice unit if you just want the added hp and driveability w/o serious modding!

where'd u get that price of $500 bucks for a tune of the unichip...i didn't know it was that high

 

[rarefc3s]

IMO you people don't seem to see the difference between a true EMS and piggy back systems. You are all grouping them into the same category/discussion. That is a mistake IMO. The original poster asked about piggy back systems

AEM--piggyback
MPI tuner (from what I gather)--piggy back
Unichip--piggy back

Haltech--standalone EMS

Bringing the haltech into the discussion is apples to oranges.

 

[mp5jeff]

aem is not a piggyback...it runs in parralel with the stock ecu, same as the haltech...