MP3 and MSP intake manifold

you can use the 626 2000 std emissions manifold. some have been testing these and they show an increase of power.
 
Ok, then the MP3 has the VICS? Someone here told me they were the same and I said I don't think so. I'm putting one on my Probe. 1996 2.0
 
all manifolds have the VICS. the mp3 doesn't have the VTCS. do a search on these to better inform yourself. but the 626 manifold I mentioned earlier is the way to go. do a search on that too.
 
I would think that having a manifold with VICS (but the buterflies removied) and no VTCS would be ideal. That way you get no restrictions from the VTCS tumblers and no restrictions from the VICS butterflies, yet you get the advantage of the VICS resonance chamber. I think that maybe the gains people have seen come from the lack of VTCS tumblers. I'd like to see a test between a 626 IM (no VICS / no VTCS) and an MP3 IM (yes VICS / no VTCS). I was actually thinking about getting an MP3 IM and taking the VICS valves out.
 
I always thought that by having the butterflies in, you'll get better performance, seeing as how you vary the runner length,ect...
 
N/A Probe said:
I always thought that by having the butterflies in, you'll get better performance, seeing as how you vary the runner length,ect...

Yes, it's a benefit to keep the VICS butterfly valves, but not the VTCS. Also, VICS isn't a variable runner setup, it's a Variable Initia Charge setup. It opens up an extra volume to time the intake pulses with the opening of the intake valves. This is different than what Honda uses on their engines, which has a long runner to create a column of air that doesn't slow down much when the valve is closed, and a short runner for max flow at high rpm.

VTCS is just a tumble valve for emission purposes. When the engine is cold, it closes off part of the runners to create turbulence and cause the air and fuel to mix better. When the engine is warmed up and the valves go back to their fully open position, they still are in the path of flow and restrict the intake.
 
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