More Pics of Prototype MSP Intercooler
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I don't mean to sound like a noob but if the FMIC is also being created will there be #'s to compare the one that fits in the stock location to that of the front mount. By numbers I mean efficiency before and after a long run and hp loss from heatsoak. Thanks 
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yeah, but dont forget.....
for FMIC u have to cut the bumper and get a new radiator.
plus u have to get hardpipes.
u can also kiss your worranty good bye.
protosport IC fits into the stock location, nothing to be cut, fits stock pipes, and mechanics at the dealership wont even notice it.
for FMIC u have to cut the bumper and get a new radiator.
plus u have to get hardpipes.
u can also kiss your worranty good bye.
protosport IC fits into the stock location, nothing to be cut, fits stock pipes, and mechanics at the dealership wont even notice it.
JPBlackMP5
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That's a legit question.....
I like the idea of this one however to maintain warranty.... assuming that's the case. Right steph?
I like the idea of this one however to maintain warranty.... assuming that's the case. Right steph?
instylz said:I don't mean to sound like a noob but if the FMIC is also being created will there be #'s to compare the one that fits in the stock location to that of the front mount. By numbers I mean efficientcy before and after a long run and hp loss from heatsoak. Thanks
boostisgood
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SpicyMSP said:
Whoooahhhh, Not trying to be a dick here, but have you seen the expansion on the stock pipes? They expand up to 2 inches, before you even hit boost. That will create a very inefficent boost level curve, and render an upgraded IC useless.
Just my info to share with ya to use as necessary. well u can get harpipes made to fit into stock location for like $300 and powder coat them black.
when comparing the 2, both will equal in efficiency up to 12 PSI.
after that FMIC becomes more efficient.
but most of the people dont want to go over 12 psi anyway (not to mention spend $1300 on FMIC and hard pipes)
when comparing the 2, both will equal in efficiency up to 12 PSI.
after that FMIC becomes more efficient.
but most of the people dont want to go over 12 psi anyway (not to mention spend $1300 on FMIC and hard pipes)
biochembruin
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i don't know of any kits for hard pipes that work on the stock intercooler, are there any kits, or is that pretty much a custom job?
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biochembruin said:
Spool makes a hard pipe kit that replaces the plastic pipes
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Heat Soak??
I'm not trying to pick on anyone in particular but, heat soak? Your proposing to change a little IC with another little IC. If you are so worried about heat soak, why don't you do something a little more drastic. Replacing the stock IC with a presumably better than stock IC mounted in the same "no flow" place? I read further up that there was a full front kit floating around. Sprayers and Minor upgrades only make minor improvements to a fundamental poor design. The MSP should have a larger IC if it were to stay where it is. and/or it should be placed in a air flow to lessen the effeciency problem.
2 cents.
I'm not trying to pick on anyone in particular but, heat soak? Your proposing to change a little IC with another little IC. If you are so worried about heat soak, why don't you do something a little more drastic. Replacing the stock IC with a presumably better than stock IC mounted in the same "no flow" place? I read further up that there was a full front kit floating around. Sprayers and Minor upgrades only make minor improvements to a fundamental poor design. The MSP should have a larger IC if it were to stay where it is. and/or it should be placed in a air flow to lessen the effeciency problem.
2 cents.
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If you put in a FMIC you then have to worry about the Radaitor being blocked and the turbo working harder with more piping.
*I know now this cause someone educated me *
*I know now this cause someone educated me *
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FBI14 said:
The radiator being blocked is a concern, however, if done correctly the FMIC should be at least 1 to 2 inches from the rad allowing blowthrough. If you are worried about the intercooler itself transfering heat to the rad, I dont think there is much reason for concern. On my install the top portion of the rad is still exposed and I have installed a relay to overide the fans. I can turn them on and leave them on at the flick of a switch. I use it mostly fo when the car is on the turbo timer. The relay is hooked up to two signals. Switch and turbo timer. When I take out the key and the turbo timer kicks in, the signal form the TT triggers the relay. It's really slick.
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FBI14 said:
Sorry, I did not see the second part of your post until now...
I understand what you are talking about with the intake plumbing being a drag over increased distance. Most of you guys are still running those corrugated accordion rubber hoses. Don't you think that those might have more drag than a set of mandrel bent aluminum hard pipes. Further, the pipes dissipate heat as the charge is traveling to the IC. The result is even less concern about heat soak. Your argument is good however; I think you are worried about the Drop in the bucket thing.
Later...Brian
