mazdaspeed store stage 1

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I'm looking for anyone who may have some experience with the MAZDASPEED3STAGE 1 POWER PACK form the mazdaspeedstore.com
I was planning on my first upgrade being a CAI and BOV, but after reading the write up on their stage one I'm not so sure. Up grading from exhaust and working forward makes sense to me.
Comments???
 
the best gains you will see is from cai, Those packages from mazda sound great but are overpriced. YOu can find anything you see in those catalogs for at least 100 cheaper online. I think you should get the cai first, then go with the bov of your choice. After that, a Midpipe which replaces the second cat is a easy/cheap exhaust upgrade. Catback is good for sound honestly and without a bigger downpipe i dont see much of a point in getting a catback.
 
Agreed. If you're going to do exhaust work, you really need to do the entire system. No use attaching a fire hose to the end of a drinking straw (metaphorically speaking).
 
I'm looking for anyone who may have some experience with the MAZDASPEED3STAGE 1 POWER PACK form the mazdaspeedstore.com
I was planning on my first upgrade being a CAI and BOV, but after reading the write up on their stage one I'm not so sure. Up grading from exhaust and working forward makes sense to me.
Comments???

People who have made the downpipe and racepipe mod cutting out all the cats have made great power, but have also run into complications with fuel cut and smoking exhaust.

Unless you're ready to tackle those issues, I'd stick with intake. Pretty much everybody is getting around 20 whp with a new intake, which is great to start out. Then when PnP EMS comes out (Cobb , CPE, or Procede from Dyno4mance) there's probably another 20-30 whp to be made out of that. Total cost of $800 to $1300 for 40-50 additional whp without complications (knock on wood) and easily put back to stock if you need to.
 
Yes I would do the intake then maybe a BOV and boost gauge and save the rest of your money for Cobbs AP that should be out in just a few weeks.
 
Patience is another thing to consider. The car and the motor have not established a huge aftermarket following yet, so the best stuff is still yet to come.
 
Ms cai, 3.25 tmic, mm and maybe a short shifter. Cat back and bov are a waste in my opinion.
 
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Thanks for the fast replys, but I think I'm still on the fence. I don't want to have to worry about reliability issues as this is a daily driver. The CAI and BOV are both easy and inexpensives mods. However, from what it says about the stage1 it is only removing your 2nd CAT and you won't have to worry about a CEL light. At around $430 I think that's only marginaly more expensive than a CAI and BOV combo. I understand the install of the downpipe is a pain though. I was/am looking forward to the COBB PnP system coming out. I've heard lots of talk about it, "THEY" keep saying it's coming out but as far as I know, nobody knows when. Forgive any ignorance on my if I am asking dumb questions. I'm extremely new to car mods and have previously only done street bikes. It's hard to know what to deciede on when everyones ideas seem like the best ones...........
 
Cold air intake and patience. Bovs aren't really a performance upgrade at this point. Don't be afraid to ask ?s!
 
cai for sure is probably one of the best bangs for the buck, and a motor mount is very much worth it also, i bought a bov mainly cuz i like the sound :-) i also have the ets tmic 3.25in cuz well... i live in az and heat soak sucks
a dp with a race pipe is also good but if you start having the smoking issue, it may start to bother you...
 
Thanks for the fast replys, but I think I'm still on the fence. I don't want to have to worry about reliability issues as this is a daily driver. The CAI and BOV are both easy and inexpensives mods. However, from what it says about the stage1 it is only removing your 2nd CAT and you won't have to worry about a CEL light. At around $430 I think that's only marginaly more expensive than a CAI and BOV combo. I understand the install of the downpipe is a pain though. I was/am looking forward to the COBB PnP system coming out. I've heard lots of talk about it, "THEY" keep saying it's coming out but as far as I know, nobody knows when. Forgive any ignorance on my if I am asking dumb questions. I'm extremely new to car mods and have previously only done street bikes. It's hard to know what to deciede on when everyones ideas seem like the best ones...........

Are you sure you keep any cats? I read it to say that it removes all cats but they relocate the o2 sensor to avoid a CEL. My understanding is that problems people have had have been related to having the greatly increased flow that comes with removing both cats as opposed to just one. Somebody else can correct me if I'm wrong.
 
If you get a good high-flow cat it's not going to be a huge restriction...AND we won't all be choking on exhaust fumes. Seems like it's win-win.
 
From what I understand at the website is that by installing the mid pipe you are removing the second CAT. I'm not sure what the smoking issue is all about or what causes it exactly. I have no info on high-flo CATS but living near a volcano I don't think any increased exhaust input on my part will be much noticed..............
 
Thanks for the fast replys, but I think I'm still on the fence. I don't want to have to worry about reliability issues as this is a daily driver. The CAI and BOV are both easy and inexpensives mods. However, from what it says about the stage1 it is only removing your 2nd CAT and you won't have to worry about a CEL light. At around $430 I think that's only marginaly more expensive than a CAI and BOV combo. I understand the install of the downpipe is a pain though. I was/am looking forward to the COBB PnP system coming out. I've heard lots of talk about it, "THEY" keep saying it's coming out but as far as I know, nobody knows when. Forgive any ignorance on my if I am asking dumb questions. I'm extremely new to car mods and have previously only done street bikes. It's hard to know what to deciede on when everyones ideas seem like the best ones...........

The thing to remember is that the engine is an air pump that burns gas mixed with that air. You have two strangleholds in this car. One is the air intake path that limits how easily the engine can get fresh air in. There is no debate here. You need to open up that path. Whatever intake you go with, it will be a noticeable improvement. There is more you can do, but that will be enough to start.
The second choke point is getting the exhaust gasses in and out of the turbo as quickly as possible. The best bang for the buck in your exhaust is a downpipe for the simple reason that the exhaust gasses need to expand across the turbine and exit in a hurry. Removing the restrictive cats in the downpipe should make a world of difference here, not to mention that the shape of the replacement downpipes is more conducive to moving lots of exhaust gas in a hurry. If I had the budget for it, I would make those two changes, drive the car for a few weeks to see if I need more, and go from there. If it isn't enough, you can put in a racepipe or a high flow cat in place of the remaining cat to further open your exhaust. If that isn't enough, after those bottlenecks are gone, put in a more open cat back. The cat back should be your final exhaust upgrade, not your first.
Somewhere in the midst of all this, you will want to improve the flow of fresh air some more. A replacement TMIC will be a big improvement, or if you like the bling and have the money, a FMIC would work too.
From what I have learned reading everyone else's experiences, I would upgrade in this order. I have to go in small steps due to the budget.
1) Intake (I already have an MS-CAI)
2) Downpipe (I just convinced myself to buy a Corksport with my tax return)
3) TMIC (this could happen next year)
4) High flow main cat.
5) TBE
6) Turbo manifold (fantasy component for me).

Once you have done the first two, you will probably have altered the turbo system enough that an aftermarket (adjustable) bypass valve will be necessary to compensate for the changes.
It is entirely up to you whether or not to mess with the ECU by using a MAP clamp and MBC or not. You may or may not find it necessary.

I hope I helped.
 
Thanks MLC..... that was extremely helpful and seems like an excellent plan, I will go with that. I'm also budget limited with a little racer on the way.
 
Just out of curiousity, in reference to the very first question, has anyone here heard anything good or bad about mazdaspeedstore.com? i am looking to buy from there as well, my only cause for concern is that their prices are so much lower than everyone else. Any infor on that site would be appreciated
 
The prices are lower till you figure in shipping. Then they are spot on with PG and the rest of them that don't charge shipping. I haven't heard anything negative about them myself, they seem to deal mostly in TurboXS stuff. They look and seem legit, and on the forum of which we do not speak I believe they are a sponsor.
 

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