Mazdaspeed 3

[scapamouche]

As for the new platform is already in production in the focus c-max in europe but from what I have heard ford is not planning on using it in North America until 06 which adds more fuel to the rumor of a turbocharged version from svt.

According to Ford's current plans, svt will be moving upscale in the future, leading to NO svt Focus... Not that there will be ANY svt vehicle for the next couple years (new Cobra and Lightning for 06)

 

[Swerny]

We will have to wait and see how the success of the # does against the base model Lancer and WRX then see if the MS3 could tap into the EVO/STI market. I hope if the MS3 does churn out 200hp, I hope it is with a six speed and can put down about 6 seconds from 0-60.

How do you think a 200 hp MS3 will compete with an EVO or STI ?
Not to mention, by the time the MS3 comes out, and it will come out, there will be a new EVO and who knows what Subaru will have cooked up by then.

 

[1sty]

How do you think a 200 hp MS3 will compete with an EVO or STI ?
Not to mention, by the time the MS3 comes out, and it will come out, there will be a new EVO and who knows what Subaru will have cooked up by then.

Suby has a 2.0L version of the STi slated to hit soon.
Also your are very right that a 200 hp MS3 isn't going to compete with an evo or sti as each of those cars make about 230 whp. The ms3 will at best, with a 200 hpo powerplant, only make 170 whp

 

[Swerny]

Suby has a 2.0L version of the STi slated to hit soon.
Also your are very right that a 200 hp MS3 isn't going to compete with an evo or sti as each of those cars make about 230 whp. The ms3 will at best, with a 200 hpo powerplant, only make 170 whp

yeah the current Japanese STI is a 2.0 (WRC standards), ours is the 2.5. I'm not sure about the Euro version.

 

[1sty]

yeah the current Japanese STI is a 2.0 (WRC standards), ours is the 2.5. I'm not sure about the Euro version.

The evo is the same engine as Japan I believe, but either way it is a 2.0L here.

I am well aware of the 2.5L in the STi

 

[Swerny]

I am well aware of the 2.5L in the STi

Sorry 1st, I forgot what you wre driving these days !

 

[Newf]

the MS3 is going to need more then 200hp to competitve. Lets not forget the SRT4 has now raised the bar. I want at least 220 at the crank, forged internals if need ( not sure with this engine ) a nice stereo again ( more reliable this time and a REAL sub )

I dont care for AWD as I figure it'll raise the price beyond reasonable. FWD with a good LSD is all I need.
And it better go WHOOOSH!!!! PSST this time!