I hope so. My guess is that the hp will increase to about 170, so there is more of a difference between the 2.0 and 2.3. And I also think we will see a broader torque range while delivering a 10-15% increase in fuel economy. Not to mention better throttle response.PR5Matt said:I like the changes. So even the regular versions of the 3 will get direct injection? HP numbers?
wongpres said:The regular versions of the Mazda3 will not be getting direct injection
tsunami said:I believe you wongpres as you are deffinatly in the "know" but then can you explain this picture as it isn't the ms3 engine or is it just missing the tmic? thanks
wongpres said:All these pictures are euro-spec. In Europe, the Mazda3 can be had with diesel engines, and these diesel engines are direct injection.
Wouldn't the valve cover say something about it being diesel? I did read a few months ago that they will be bringing DI to NA cars in NA. Many people were griping that the 2.3 3 got sub-par fuel economy.wongpres said:All these pictures are euro-spec. In Europe, the Mazda3 can be had with diesel engines, and these diesel engines are direct injection.
RHAGEL said:Wouldn't the valve cover say something about it being diesel? I did read a few months ago that they will be bringing DI to NA cars in NA. Many people were griping that the 2.3 3 got sub-par fuel economy.
I don't think we are reading way too much into this, I think everyone is just curious. You seem to know a lot about North American Mazda products, where do you get your info? I agree, DI would be a big jump for a mid-cycle refresh bit I also think it could keep sales of the 3 at the top of thier segment. I think the 2.3 has quite a bit more potential in the NA form and that the power of the two engines are too similar. I would like to see the 3s get a 6 speed manual and some more sound deadening. I drove a new VW GTI yesterday and I loved it. The interior was my selling point and it was much nicer than the 3. I am looking for a sporty yet refined car and the 3 is still falling a little short of my expectations. More power and the additions mentioned above may change my opinion.wongpres said:Let's say this is the new regular 2.0l or 2.3l engine cover, then shouldn't it also say "Variable Valve Timing"?
Only the 2.3l turbo has direct injection.
You're all reading way too much into this - again this image is of the diesel engine, and the reason MME (Mazda Motor Europe) included this in the pictureset is because the diesel engine for the Mazda3 got upgraded for the facelift. The petrol engines are unchanged (except for the 2.0l getting variable valve timing, which N. America got for '06 but Europe will not get until the facelift).
And one more thing, like all the other pics on this thread, the blue 5-door is euro-spec non-sport version, and N. America doesn't get this spec, so the blue 5-door will not tell you anything about the N. American-spec facelifted 5-door.
It doesn't seem like anything I should hold my breath for. I am just dissapointed, but I guess we will see what the MS3 offers.wongpres said:Sedan
Mazda3 GX & GS, '06 standard features plus following: ABS with EBD, side airbags & curtains, additional 12V power outlet, audio AUX in, power package (GS only), rear bench centre armrest with 2 cup holders (GS only), A/C (GS only)
Changes from '06 options list: convenience package replaced by power package (GX only)
Mazda3 GT, '06 standard features plus following: side airbags & curtains, rear bench centre armrest with 2 cup holders, additional 12V power outlet, audio AUX in, heated cloth seats, LED taillights
Changes from '06 options list: moonroof as stand-alone option on top of base GT, luxury package includes '06 package contents plus HID and automatic climate control
Sport
Mazda3 Sport GS, '06 standard features plus following: side airbags & curtains, additional 12V power outlet, audio AUX in
Mazda3 Sport GT, '06 standard features plus following: side airbags & curtains, rear bench centre armrest with 2 cup holders, additional 12V power outlet, audio AUX in, heated cloth seats, A/C
Changes from '06 options list: luxury package includes '06 package contents plus HID and automatic climate control
Removed Colours (note Canadian colour names used)
Velocity Red, Winning Blue, Titanium Grey, Indigo Blue, Snowflake White Pearl
New Colours (and other vehicles you can see the colour on)
Phantom Blue (Mazda5), Electric Blue (CX-7), Galaxy Grey (CX-7, MX-5, RX-8), Phantom Purple, Crystal White (CX-7)
All this info applies to Canadian-spec only, I should know US-spec info in a couple of weeks. But this gives an idea of the sorts of new items in US-spec.