Mazda/Ford

i dont know wether u guys have them over there, but in england we have a ford focus st170, its kinda like an middle ground performance car, 170bhp, good handerling etc. well apparently they de tuned my car 323 sport, so it wouldnt be in competition with the st170. pretty gay i think. doesnt matter though cos the duratec engine in them cant be tuned much, where as ours have the potential for anything :)
 
AlturredMP5 said:
toyota has some badass trucks too. like that turbo or supercharged (cant remember) tundra was so friggin badass
ah yea i forgot about that. i think its turboed. cuz i remember watching a guy kick the back end out goin through an intersectoin on a wet road but i didnt hear any supercharger whine, so im thinkin its turboed
 
MyZmZm said:
if you bought a protege of any kind, iirc, you lucked out - it's nearly all japanese from the design to the body to the mechanical. again, if i'm not mistaken, they were all made in japan and shipped to elsewhere in the world. if you buy a standard 3 or 6 however... hahaha, you're 90+% ford - and made in north america. the speed3 and speed6 though are still mostly japanese and made in japan.

I just wanted to correct some of this info. the mazda 6, b series trucks, and tributes are built in america. the mazda 3 and the rest of the lineup are built over in japan.

So if you buy a mazda 3, its built in japan.
mazda 6? built in N. America.

speed vehicles? All Japan.
 
B1GHAM said:
I just wanted to correct some of this info. the mazda 6, b series trucks, and tributes are built in america. the mazda 3 and the rest of the lineup are built over in japan.

So if you buy a mazda 3, its built in japan.
mazda 6? built in N. America.

speed vehicles? All Japan.

didnt the 6 take over the taurus platform?

just the platform though, i wanna clear that up before i start getting flamed for calling the 6 a taurus.
 
AlturredMP5 said:
didnt the 6 take over the taurus platform?

just the platform though, i wanna clear that up before i start getting flamed for calling the 6 a taurus.

yeah you're gonna get flamed for that for sure..

I think the 6 (non-speed) is made on the same production line as the rustang though haha
 
Kansei said:
yeah you're gonna get flamed for that for sure..

I think the 6 (non-speed) is made on the same production line as the rustang though haha

i dont think so, cuz the mustang is made at a rear wheel drive plant, and the 6 is fwd. i dunno, you could be right. im wrong a lot.

id rather the 6 come from the taurus line cuz at least ford had the decency to discontinue the taurus.
 
It's funny that people say the 3rd gen pros are Fords. Besides the label on the drivers door area that says 97% made in Japan, the first letter of the vin gives it away. "J"= Japan, "1"= US.
 
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hey look on the bright side, the engine is sturdy as hell. I've been through four sets of pistons and the block has never cracked or warped or any of that good stuff. I got it machined and it is still as good as new, i used to get crap from my buddies and the muscle heads til i smoked them like a freshly rolled blunt! by the way what do they drive if i might ask?
 
redpr5 said:
ah yea i forgot about that. i think its turboed. cuz i remember watching a guy kick the back end out goin through an intersectoin on a wet road but i didnt hear any supercharger whine, so im thinkin its turboed

Toyota only offered the TRD Supercharger. No turbo.

Anyhow, I can't believe someone thought the 6 was on the Ford Taurus platform......(omg)
The new Fusion, MKZ and whatever Mercury variant are built on the 6 platform though.
 
AlturredMP5 said:
i dont think so, cuz the mustang is made at a rear wheel drive plant, and the 6 is fwd. i dunno, you could be right. im wrong a lot.

Mazda6 chassis was all new for the 6. Ford refers to this chassis as the CD3. The platform is shared by the Fusion/Millan/MKZ with minor tweeking, and with the Edge/MKX/CX-7/CX-9 with some serious re-engineering.

See the wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_CD3_platform

The FS-DE 2.0L engine is of Mazda design. It was found in the Ford Probe, as well as other cars beginning in 1993.

See the wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_F_engine#FS
 
ah, some clearification is nice.

if the fsde was found in the probe in 93, what did mazda have that it was in?

and was 93 the first year for the fsde?
 
AlturredMP5 said:
ah, some clearification is nice.

if the fsde was found in the probe in 93, what did mazda have that it was in?

and was 93 the first year for the fsde?

The MX-6.. the Probe was a Mazda platform

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and if I'm not mistaken, it was on a derivative of the 93-97 Mazda 626 platform, which the BJ protege is a derivative of.
 
I have a 626 sitting in my garage with an FSDE in it. Sometime in the future, I'm thinking of pulling the motor and checking if the gearbox innards will swap with mine (longer final ratio). If first gear is longer, I'd like to pull that one, too.

Maybe the reason people think the Protege is a Ford is this:
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Which of course, is bull. The reason I bought a Laser is because I was reassured by the fact that there was actually a Mazda underneath. :lol:
 
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