Mazda CX-5 Quickness VS Mazda 2010 3S

[Panther]

Howdy All,

Just wondering, had heard a few grumbles about the
CX5 2.5L motor with Auto not putting out much power. I was
just wondering if any of Y'all have driven or drive
a Mazda 3S with the 2.5L engine and Auto Trans?

The reason I'm asking is that my Wonderful Wife's
car, is the 3S and when I drive it, it seems pretty
damn quick to me, almost too quick for my old
reflexes <G> but still like that feel !!!

Appreciate any thoughts and info.

Take Care,

CK

 

[djsiva]

You have to become accustomed to the throttle-by-wire in the CX5. You have to punch it a little to get the throttle response you're looking for, but I don't have any issues with the quickness of my 2014 AWD GT.

 

[djsiva]

Also, this is from zeroto60times.com

2010 Mazda 3 s Grand Touring (5 Door) 0-60 mph 7.5 Quarter Mile 15.6
2014 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring (2.5L, Auto) 0-60 mph 7.5 Quarter Mile 15.6

 

[Panther]

Also, this is from zeroto60times.com

2010 Mazda 3 s Grand Touring (5 Door) 0-60 mph 7.5 Quarter Mile 15.6
2014 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring (2.5L, Auto) 0-60 mph 7.5 Quarter Mile 15.6

Howdy djsiva,

Thank You very much for both your Posts, I can see where the different throttle
will take some getting used to.

I am pleased to know that the two run about the same times, I'm sure
the CX-5's weight will slow things down a little but not much.

Thank You again for the numbers on the 1/4 mile and 60mph times.

Take Care,

CK

 

[SayNoToPistons]

The CX-5 is certainly heavier, but the midrange punch and torque of the SkyActiv 2.5L will definitely improve the feel. Also the quicker shifting of the SkyActiv transmission with much higher lock up rates help in terms of feel and performance.

 

[Skorpio]

Howdy CK, I can tell you after passing a few vehicles on a 2 lane road today my CX-5 will pass a car quite quickly when punching the throttle to the floor. I don't find the 2.5 w/ auto to be deficient in power at all.

 

[Panther]

The CX-5 is certainly heavier, but the midrange punch and torque of the SkyActiv 2.5L will definitely improve the feel. Also the quicker shifting of the SkyActiv transmission with much higher lock up rates help in terms of feel and performance.

Morning SNTP,

Thanks for the additional info, I'm starting to get more and more excited
about getting mine. Hopefully, towards the end of the year.

Take Care,

CK

 

[Panther]

Howdy CK, I can tell you after passing a few vehicles on a 2 lane road today my CX-5 will pass a car quite quickly when punching the throttle to the floor. I don't find the 2.5 w/ auto to be deficient in power at all.

Morning Skorpio,

That's great to hear, I knew that it wasn't a Slug, but was a little
concerned about some of the comments on lack of power while
on the road in some situations.

My Wife's Car (Mazda 2010 3S 2.5) , compared to my old F150 makes it feel like a little
Rocket when you push the petal down, even half way. Plus, I'm sure be
about 3 feet lower on the road helps to that feel.

Take Care,

CK

 

[Skorpio]

Morning Skorpio,

That's great to hear, I knew that it wasn't a Slug, but was a little
concerned about some of the comments on lack of power while
on the road in some situations.

My Wife's Car (Mazda 2010 3S 2.5) , compared to my old F150 makes it feel like a little
Rocket when you push the petal down, even half way. Plus, I'm sure be
about 3 feet lower on the road helps to that feel.

Take Care,

CK

In my opinion, the owners that find the CX-5's passing power, lack of power, or "get up and go" disappointing have not learned how to correctly get the transmission to downshift quickly into it's power band. And, it's not operated like a typical car. Like Djsiva mentioned, you have to stomp on the acelerator pedal quickly and hard, like you're squashing a spider (lol2). By doing that, the trans will not stay in fuel Eco mode, but instead go into a power mode, downshift up to 3 gears and.... ZOOM ZOOM (thumb)

 

[Chris_Top_Her]

In my opinion, the owners that find the CX-5's passing power, lack of power, or "get up and go" disappointing have not learned how to correctly get the transmission to downshift quickly into it's power band. And, it's not operated like a typical car. Like Djsiva mentioned, you have to stomp on the acelerator pedal quickly and hard, like you're squashing a spider (lol2). By doing that, the trans will not stay in fuel Eco mode, but instead go into a power mode, downshift up to 3 gears and.... ZOOM ZOOM (thumb)

unless you have the poopy 2.0L lol

 

[Skorpio]

unless you have the poopy 2.0L lol

My bad, I was referring to the 2.5/auto. I have no experience with the 2.0, but I'll take your word for it (drive2)

 

[gova]

You have to become accustomed to the throttle-by-wire in the CX5. You have to punch it a little to get the throttle response you're looking for, but I don't have any issues with the quickness of my 2014 AWD GT.

Very true in regards of that wire throttle. It still pisses me off.

 

[CC58]

Very true in regards of that wire throttle. It still pisses me off.

I think of it as an added feature. CX-5 does its best to get good mpg, until you stab the throttle.
Would be nice if there were modes though. There are times it would be good to be in zoom-zoom mode
without thinking about stabbing the throttle. Maybe they could get speech recognition to understand cuss words.

 

[Panther]

In my opinion, the owners that find the CX-5's passing power, lack of power, or "get up and go" disappointing have not learned how to correctly get the transmission to downshift quickly into it's power band. And, it's not operated like a typical car. Like Djsiva mentioned, you have to stomp on the acelerator pedal quickly and hard, like you're squashing a spider (lol2). By doing that, the trans will not stay in fuel Eco mode, but instead go into a power mode, downshift up to 3 gears and.... ZOOM ZOOM (thumb)

Howdy Skorpio,

I am so glad that I've been lurking and reading about the way to work the car to get the
most performance and then also the best economy out of it. I'm also guessing that if you
really feel "sporty" putting in the Auto Manual mode where you can shift on the fly would
be a neat thing as well.

Take Care,

CK

 

[Panther]

Very true in regards of that wire throttle. It still pisses me off.

Howdy Gova,

I think that will be something that I will have to learn about how to use
it to it's best advantage.

I'm just glad it's not Drive By Wire, seems like I heard some of those cars
with that system had some wild times !!!

Take Care,

CK

 

[Panther]

I think of it as an added feature. CX-5 does its best to get good mpg, until you stab the throttle.
Would be nice if there were modes though. There are times it would be good to be in zoom-zoom mode
without thinking about stabbing the throttle. Maybe they could get speech recognition to understand cuss words.

Howdy CS58,

I agree, it would be really great to have the modes like you said,
that way you could get that driving style that you want or even
a Full Performance Mode<G> I can only imagine the trouble I could
get into with that !!!

Take Care,

CK

 

[Skorpio]

Howdy Skorpio,

I am so glad that I've been lurking and reading about the way to work the car to get the
most performance and then also the best economy out of it. I'm also guessing that if you
really feel "sporty" putting in the Auto Manual mode where you can shift on the fly would
be a neat thing as well.

Take Care,

CK

Howdy CK, I agree with the manual mode, it is a nice extra feature. However, for me, I wished Mazda included paddle shifters on the steering column. 2016 model, perhaps?

Howdy Gova,

I think that will be something that I will have to learn about how to use
it to it's best advantage.

I'm just glad it's not Drive By Wire, seems like I heard some of those cars
with that system had some wild times !!!

Take Care,

CK

I'm not sure what Gova meant, but the CX-5, along with most cars today do have drive by wire systems. My 2001 Corvette and 2009 Honda Civic had them, and I never once had an issue with it. Here's a pic of the electronically controlled throttle plate on my CX-5. No cables, only an electric motor

 

[Skorpio]

Howdy CK, I agree with the manual mode, it is a nice extra feature. However, for me, I wished Mazda included paddle shifters on the steering column. 2016 model, perhaps?

I'm not sure what Gova meant, but the CX-5, along with most cars today do have drive by wire systems. My 2001 Corvette and 2009 Honda Civic had them, and I never once had an issue with it. Here's a pic of the electronically controlled throttle plate on my CX-5. No cables, only an electric motor

You should not worry about this setup(thumb)

 

[Panther]

You should not worry about this setup(thumb)

Howdy Skorpio,

Uh Oh, my ignorance showed up !!!

I know that most things these days
probably have that but like I'd written
before My Wife 3S really has such a good
feel on the road and hoping the CX-5 will be the same.

Thanks so much for all the info and help !!!

Take Care,

CK

 

[Skorpio]

Howdy Skorpio,

Uh Oh, my ignorance showed up !!!

I know that most things these days
probably have that but like I'd written
before My Wife 3S really has such a good
feel on the road and hoping the CX-5 will be the same.

Thanks so much for all the info and help !!!

Take Care,

CK

No worries CK, these forums are for learning. You're doing something wrong if you're not learning something new everyday. The only true way to tell if the CX-5 drives like your 3S is to test drive and compare. Driving dynamics are subjective to every person. Good luck!
Btw, I like your avatar