Mazda CEO says American drivers want ICE vehicles

[Sig cx-5]

Your response read like a commercial for EV's.

It was MY testimonial. At least it wasn't propaganda for a foreign country.

 

[Sig cx-5]

You must of missed this article.

Tesla crushed in Consumer Reports reliability rankings despite improvement

Consumer Reports released their annual reliability rankings, and Tesla fell to near the bottom of the list despite improving considerably.

www.teslarati.com

Not sure where I mentioned reliability, but since you brought it up. I've not had a single issue with our Tesla. That said, our Mazda was also flawless. Only 2 manufactures I've owned have had issues, but both were covered under the standard warranty. A Honda CR-V and Lexus ES. Both Honda and Lexus usually rank high on reliability, but in my world, they are inferior.

 

[wlong01]

Not sure where I mentioned reliability, but since you brought it up. I've not had a single issue with our Tesla. That said, our Mazda was also flawless. Only 2 manufactures I've owned have had issues, but both were covered under the standard warranty. A Honda CR-V and Lexus ES. Both Honda and Lexus usually rank high on reliability, but in my world, they are inferior.

I'm just the messenger.

 

[cz5gt]

You drive a Tesla go try another Ev and compare. Tesla is years ahead. Anything other than Tesla is not worth it and that is still valid today.
Mazda got the MX Ev model just for presence and may be some credits offset. But they
are smart going the Hybrid path. This will dominate the new car market for ICE not the Ev. At least for few years.

 

[N7turbo]

I know this is a Mazda forum and their only venture into BEV's was a disaster. Why they came out with the MX-30 with only 100 mile range is beyond me.

Technology test bed.

And, the majority of people don't need more than 100 miles of range. What many forget is that if you live in a city and charge at home, you'll never have to actually stop to "fill up" ever again.

The reason we need more range with gas vehicles is because "getting gas" is a thing we have to do if we want to continue driving the vehicle.

 

[jadmt]

You must of missed this article.

Tesla crushed in Consumer Reports reliability rankings despite improvement

Consumer Reports released their annual reliability rankings, and Tesla fell to near the bottom of the list despite improving considerably.

www.teslarati.com

I did not read the article, but I wonder if political bias came into play with Tesla...I met a road tester for consumer reports on a hike one time and after talking to him for a few minutes I realized anything he said about vehicles was about 180° from reality. He noticed I was wearing a Moab hat and he asked if I had been there. I said yes I go there a couple times a year to jeep. He proceeded to tell me Subarus were probably the best vehicle for offroading in his opinion....I told him I had not seen any Subarus on the trails we go on and he said it was because people were not open minded about them.

 

[gtbigup]

Mazda CEO should be saying Americans want the new Mazda pick up truck

Wont be a smart business move at all. It wont be competitive with current offerings Full Size or Mid Sized.
Hint: Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra compared to domestic manufacturers. Nissan quit. Pickup truck market is serious business in the U.S. lots of loyalist and Mazda won't stand a chance in that segment

 

[HyFlyer]

Wont be a smart business move at all. It wont be competitive with current offerings Full Size or Mid Sized.
Hint: Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra compared to domestic manufacturers. Nissan quit. Pickup truck market is serious business in the U.S. lots of loyalist and Mazda won't stand a chance in that segment

Idunno if Mazda would get anywhere with a small pickup type vehicle like Ford Maverick, Honda Ridgeline or the Hyundai Santa Cruz.

We added a 2024 Maverick XLT (hybrid version) to the Hyflyer family fleet this year. We like it a lot and so far so good reliability (although I don't trust Ford quality and bought an 8yr/125k warranty from Ford).

If Mazda offered a similar vehicle to the Maverick they would've had extra bonus points with our family since we've had rock solid reliability from Mazda. That carries a lot of weight in my decision making.

 

[wlong01]

Idunno if Mazda would get anywhere with a small pickup type vehicle like Ford Maverick, Honda Ridgeline or the Hyundai Santa Cruz.

We added a 2024 Maverick XLT (hybrid version) to the Hyflyer family fleet this year. We like it a lot and so far so good reliability (although I don't trust Ford quality and bought an 8yr/125k warranty from Ford).

If Mazda offered a similar vehicle to the Maverick they would've had extra bonus points with our family since we've had rock solid reliability from Mazda. That carries a lot of weight in my decision making.

Smart on the warranty. I vowed never to own another Ford after my 2nd Mustang blew it's engine.
My daughters almost new Mercury (basically a Ford) blew an engine at 32,000 miles. Luckily it was under warranty.

 

[jbsx]

Wont be a smart business move at all. It wont be competitive with current offerings Full Size or Mid Sized.
Hint: Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra compared to domestic manufacturers. Nissan quit. Pickup truck market is serious business in the U.S. lots of loyalist and Mazda won't stand a chance in that segment

Mazda's truck is a small size, along the lines of hyundai SC/Maverick. I don't know why Mazda won't build/sell in the U.S.
It's a really nice compact truck and I would like one.

 

[Sig cx-5]

Mazda's truck is a small size, along the lines of hyundai SC/Maverick. I don't know why Mazda won't build/sell in the U.S.

Look up "Chicken Tax".

 

[wlong01]

Look up "Chicken Tax".

Wasn't that the reason Subaru put the two bucket seats in the back of their pick-ups.

 

[yrwei52]

It was MY testimonial. At least it wasn't propaganda for a foreign country.

So why your personal Tesla EV experience is fine and my personal experience on EVs in a “foreign country” is a “propaganda”?

You sound a little propagandist there.

EV's are really already at a point where most US homeowners could benefit from owning one. The ability to charge at home is really all that's needed for over 90% of their driving needs. Infrastructure is getting to a point where it's not as much of an issue as it was just a couple years ago. The fact that most EV makers have now adopted the NACS charging spec, will only accelerate that growth. It was foolish to think a standard wasn't necessary.

Wife had a co-worker and she drove her Tesla Model 3 from LA to Dallas a couple of years ago. She had to follow a specific route by the App or she might get stranded without a charging station available.

I went for a 11-week world tour including 23 big and small cities in China this year and experienced too many EVs there. China now is the most vehicle exporting country (and without huge US market BTW) in the world overtaking Japan in late 2023 thanks mostly to their huge BEV productions.

Off Topic: Global EV sales up 49% to 6.2 million units in H1 2023

Off Topic: WSJ: Why Americans Can’t Buy Cheap Chinese EVs

China Retains Position as World's Top Auto Exporter, Surpassing Japan

Their Uber type taxi service “DiDi” in China when we needed it almost always uses BEVs for lower pollution and cheaper operating cost. One time we called a DiDi to get to a city 150 km away, the nice female driver said her Geely EV didn’t have enough juice to go there for a round trip. I though we needed to call another car but she said it took only 10 extra minutes to get to a battery exchange station to get a fully-charged battery. Well, the fully automatic battery exchange station which is about 10 minutes away indeed took a couple of minutes by lifting the car a bit once the EV drive into the spot, removed the old battery and put a fully-charged battery underneath the car while we’re sitting inside. That’s pretty impressive and convenient to me.

Further, if the commercial vehicles can survive the service life, I’d believe the range issue can’t be too big (usually 400 km / 248 miles range on a cheap ¥160,000 RMB / $22,000 USD Geely EV) and reliability issue can’t be too frequent or the BEVs won’t be so popular to be used for such business.
Fast charging battery for a long range is available now on the high end BEVs where 10 minute charge can run 600 km / 372.8 miles, and a full charge for about 20 minutes can run 1,200 km / 745.6 miles.

Off Topic: EV Batteries That Fully Charge in 10 Min by the End of 2024

Off Topic: A “1 Second for 1 KM” EV Charging Station!

Here are the luxurious SUVs all with self-driving AI technology in a Huawei’s showroom I visited in China including Huawei’s world-first tri-fold cell phone which would be very nice for me to have a 3X screen size available on my cell phone!

 

[wlong01]

There will be no Chinese EV's sold in the US at least for the next four years. Why do you think Musk is best buds with Donald Trump.

 

[N7turbo]

Their Uber type taxi service “DiDi” in China when we needed it almost always uses BEVs for lower pollution and cheaper operating cost. One time we called a DiDi to get to a city 150 km away, the nice female driver said her Geely EV didn’t have enough juice to go there for a round trip. I though we needed to call another car but she said it took only 10 extra minutes to get to a battery exchange station to get a fully-charged battery. Well, the fully automatic battery exchange station which is about 10 minutes away indeed took a couple of minutes by lifting the car a bit once the EV drive into the spot, removed the old battery and put a fully-charged battery underneath the car while we’re sitting inside. That’s pretty impressive and convenient to me.

This is what Tesla promised years ago and never followed through on. What's the cost on that battery swap? And I wonder how ownership works. I would want to read the fine details of that program.

 

[N7turbo]

There will be no Chinese EV's sold in the US at least for the next four years. Why do you think Musk is best buds with Donald Trump.

Probably never. There are a lot of vested interests protecting our auto industry here, and probably for the better if you consider how many jobs it supports. Remember the actions that were taken to save it in 2009.

 

[Antoine]

Let’s keep this about Mazda please and what the Mazda CEO mentioned in regards to selling Mazdas which is his job. No politics or repeating the same point about Chinese tech in multiple threads, thanks.

Now back to the topic…Mazda.

 

[DG_1234]

I believe that for the USA market Mazda could have good sales from a compact model 2 door hatchback. For example a car a bit larger than the Mazda 2 and a bit smaller than the Mazda 3.

 

[paris1]

I believe that for the USA market Mazda could have good sales from a compact model 2 door hatchback. For example a car a bit larger than the Mazda 2 and a bit smaller than the Mazda 3.

Really?! And you don't think there's a reason no other manufacturer offers a car like that in the US?

 

[Antoine]

I believe that for the USA market Mazda could have good sales from a compact model 2 door hatchback. For example a car a bit larger than the Mazda 2 and a bit smaller than the Mazda 3.

Really?! And you don't think there's a reason no other manufacturer offers a car like that in the US?

Sounds like that compact model sort of exists already with the CX-30 which is a very strong seller now...So there is demand for Mazdas (Crossover/SUV) that are more compact than the CX-5 yet not as small as the Mazda2.

Now what form is the CX-30 going to take next? It's most likely not going away given the strong sales.