Mazda 3s vs. Acura RSX
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r1ceburner
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I think the folks who were talking about it being a drivers race were talking about a Mazda3s vs RSX, not a RSX Type-S. I've driven both a RSX Type-S and the Mazda3s and in straightline acceleration, the RSX Type-S would pull on a Mazda3s like crazy.
Spend the extra $5k and mod the hell out of your car.
Spend the extra $5k and mod the hell out of your car.
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r1ceburner
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mEtHoDySt said:
This month's issue of C&D Boost magazine has a RSX Type-S with a Jackson Racing supercharger on it. 310hp / 193tq at the wheels. 0-60 in 5.5s. Pretty impressive if you ask me, but the car had $9300 worth of mods on it.
Mazda3Sedan
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Alot of you are forgetting the RSX has a 11:0:1 compression ratio and we have a 9.7:1 ratio. Alot of the power manifested from FI on the RSX is due to the CR. By all means the K20 is a great motor, but let us boost our and I think we could make just as much power and be more reliable.
You can lower compression you know for the rsx-s. I never thought of the 3 as much of a fast car. Nimble maybe. But it has a better interior that the rsx-s by far imo.
If you want a faster car, get an rsx-s. If you want a car that's nicer inside and outside that is nimble and has 4/5 doors to boot, then get the 3.
Honda maybe a lil more reliable although I have had good experiences with my old protege.
If you want a faster car, get an rsx-s. If you want a car that's nicer inside and outside that is nimble and has 4/5 doors to boot, then get the 3.
Honda maybe a lil more reliable although I have had good experiences with my old protege.
mEtHoDySt said:
I'm so tired of hearing people say crap like this...s***, I could buy a CRX and drop a motor in it, turbo it and smoke both cars for under 10 grand. That's not the point though. How many poeple will buy a 3, and fork out 10 grand from there pocket to build a custom turbo(and other goodies) just to keep up with a Type-S?Just like Replica said, the Type-S is worth the price you pay. Keep in mind, it's a Honda product. It'll be very, very reliable. I'd take a Honda over a comparable Mazda anyday.
r1ceburner
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yac2727 said:
Oh hell yes. Sorry, I was thinking of the Base RSX Type-S. Yes, $10K would give you more than enough money to research and roll your own turbo kit for the 2.3L, plus leave some $$$ leftover to get yourself in trouble with.
yep extra $$$ is your bail money and court fees...saw that V6 on ebay for $750....r1ceburner said:
and to answer the who would spend money to keep up to the type s is the person who started the thread who got challenged by that honduh guy...
r1ceburner
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2K3 MSP said:
Just like Replica said, the Type-S is worth the price you pay. Keep in mind, it's a Honda product. It'll be very, very reliable. I'd take a Honda over a comparable Mazda anyday.
Like you said, these cars are aimed at two different markets. People who want a no-frills, fast-as-hell care will spend the extra money and buy the RSX Type-S. Although, I have to disagree with some of you, because I personally feel that the performance of the RSX Type-S (while it is astounding) is not nearly worth $26K, even if it is an Acura.
Nah.. the speed is only 18x HP vs. the S at 200 HP... Acura is also a better built car in terms of its transmission and gear shift... Mazdaspeed is going to eat dust really... dont try!FAI said:
It is the opposite!! The 3 has few if any after market mods... sooner or later we will see so many identical 3s on the road. On the other hand, RSX has tons of body kits and exterior mods inside-out... many RSX can look really unique at a low cost.osudewd said:
Spoken like someone who doesn't know nearly enough about cars...monki said:
The speed has so much torque (comparatively)...and it has 170hp, by the way. Then take into consideration the MSP's gearing. Take a look at the stock 1/4 times the MSP is just as fast...and the RSX-S won't catch up until the latter part of the race. In a shorter race the MSP would win. (this is all stock for stock, mind you)
As for the tranny...tell Acura to remove the butter from their clutch. At least you can feel the MSPs clutch...and everything is transmitted to the driver. That's what makes the MSP so much fun...and why I bought it...not to mention the lower price.
As for stuff coming out for the 3...there's already mintblue and autoexe body kits. And if it sells as well as mazda's other new models (which it seems it will) the parts will keep coming. There's already talk of 2.3L turbo kits...so stuff will be there. It'll never have the amount of support of the Acura, but it'll always be a tight driving Mazda chassis.
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there is no free lunch, why would the mazda car sell at a cheap price, why so much cheaper than a RSX, or even a mazda6? hope u can figure it out! Talking to someone who dont know much about cars... the two body kits you mentioned are the two kits that aren't even popularly avaliable in japan... dont even talk about installing it at a high cost in North America. And just that you are countering your own point... there are only 2 body kits avaliable for mazda3, vs. like 20 for RSX... ROFL (butt)
and yes i m talking to servoeyes, just look at how many modified protege and protege 5 on the street , vs Honda's? who have more aftermarket mods avaliable? you can be the judge!
Again, there is no free lunch, you will realize that sooner or later.
and yes i m talking to servoeyes, just look at how many modified protege and protege 5 on the street , vs Honda's? who have more aftermarket mods avaliable? you can be the judge!
Again, there is no free lunch, you will realize that sooner or later.
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In defense of the Mazda, just keep in mind it's a 1st year release. The RSX is already in it's 3rd year of production.monki said:
And R1ceburner, it's not all about the performance. The Type S comes with a lot of class for that ~$26K, where as the 3 is simply a nicely built compact car. My dad has the Type S, and personally, if I had $26K in CASH, I'd take the 3 and pimp it out. But if I'm gonna get stuck with a 5 year loan, I think I'd take the Type-S. Actually, I'd get something different because the RSX has horrible blind spots, but for the sake of the argument, it'd be the S over the 3
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Why the hell would you want to put that V6 in anything? It's basically even with the MSP's 170hp stock to stock. There are almost no mods for the V6, but HiBoost has a turbo for the 2.3L in the works & the Focus guys are running 14s with just I/H/E. The 2.3L is the engine to have in either the 3 or the 6.Da 6 said:
And you still can't counter the point about the RSX-S smoking an MSP stock for stock, though can you, Monki? 200hp vs 18x hp (you couldn't even take the time to look up the MSP's number) will make the MSP eat dust, huh? Saying something like that makes you sound like the typical consumer that buys into that crap. Seriously...why do you think Honda/Acura advertise the 200hp, but not the 142 ft-lbs of torque @ 6000 RPM??? This is the one thing that I had a problem with from your post. I mean, damn, man...all you had to do was take a little look into a magazine to save yourself from making a comment that made you sound uninformed.monki said:
as for the body kits...yeah...what exactly do you expect? Does the car sell nearly as many units as the RSX? And it really is just getting out there...the stuff will come if it sells well.
And the reasons for Mazda selling the car for less:
a) build/material quality...that's obvious
b) name recognition
That's all...it's as simple as that...The new 3s may not last as long as a new RSX-S, but you'll have 5,000-10,000$ more in your pocket. Which illustrates your point in your second post well:
there's no such thing as a free lunch...you make compromises with every car...be it features, quality, or cost. I'm an engineer...I understand these things. Obviously, my car met my needs and I compromised in a few little areas that I felt I could. I got the better car for me.
