Mazda 3 runs 12.7 at 116 mph
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goldwing2000
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MPSpeedSeraph
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A question?
I'm looking into getting a MPS tomorrow however after seeing this was cosidering a slightly used Mazda 3 with intentions to turbocharge. I really like the MPS body and other asthetics. I was wondering how feasible it would be to see the Mazda 3s 2.3liter and drivetrain transplated into the MPS (glare) ? This is definitely a one up on the FS-DE engine. (thumb)
Good job by the way guys! Awesome times! (first)
I'm looking into getting a MPS tomorrow however after seeing this was cosidering a slightly used Mazda 3 with intentions to turbocharge. I really like the MPS body and other asthetics. I was wondering how feasible it would be to see the Mazda 3s 2.3liter and drivetrain transplated into the MPS (glare) ? This is definitely a one up on the FS-DE engine. (thumb)
Good job by the way guys! Awesome times! (first)
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I actually asked the same thing the other day. It hasn't been tried yet, but it would be pretty freakin sweet. If somebody comes out with a conversion kit, I might be forced to sign up.
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I've always been someone to kinda go balls to the wall. I'd be more than happy to put in wrench time and cash to make it possible.
I have no problem being a guinea pig. I have a shop in mind that MIGHT be able to take on the project with me? I'll see what I can do but I'm hoping someone else from the boards can give me 2cents to let me know what I'm getting myself into or if it's simply a crazy dream.
Personally I feel if there's someone out there crazy enough to dream it... that's proof enough that there's someone out there crazy enough to do it. (thumb)
I have no problem being a guinea pig. I have a shop in mind that MIGHT be able to take on the project with me? I'll see what I can do but I'm hoping someone else from the boards can give me 2cents to let me know what I'm getting myself into or if it's simply a crazy dream.
Personally I feel if there's someone out there crazy enough to dream it... that's proof enough that there's someone out there crazy enough to do it. (thumb)
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So no ideas?
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anarchistchiken said:
it would have to be a hell of a conversion kit, folks.
big reason its not feasible is the orientation of the engine. on the protege the exhaust manifold is up front and the intake in the rear. on the 3 the intake is in front and the exhaust manifold exits to the rear. this would make for some very creative mounting to say the least. wiring harness would have to be totally custom as well as engine management. the 2.3 also utilizes a "drive by wire" electronic throttle system versus the cable actuated design on the protege. i do think that the protege manual transmission would more or less bolt up, but again you have the orientation problem.
this a problem the neon/eclipse guys have had for some time - both the DSM eclipses and the neon use a 420A based engine, but they cannot interchange because of orientation issues - one is the reverse of the other. same reason why a 4G63 cannot be shoved into a neon.
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So basically it could be done but it'd be one HELL of a project... to say the least.
So it's either go with the MSP and deal with a weaker power plant.
Or go with the 3 and get a better more technological and stronger powerplant with more potential?
hrmmm... this is a toughy. I really enjoy the mazda 3 and was actually lookin to get a new one after buying my mazda 6. But I personally prefer the Mazdaspeed. I've been kinda hooked on it since I drove my buddy's for a weekend.
This is a tough decision (huh)
So it's either go with the MSP and deal with a weaker power plant.
Or go with the 3 and get a better more technological and stronger powerplant with more potential?
hrmmm... this is a toughy. I really enjoy the mazda 3 and was actually lookin to get a new one after buying my mazda 6. But I personally prefer the Mazdaspeed. I've been kinda hooked on it since I drove my buddy's for a weekend.
This is a tough decision (huh)
MPSpeedSeraph said:So basically it could be done but it'd be one HELL of a project... to say the least.
So it's either go with the MSP and deal with a weaker power plant.
Or go with the 3 and get a better more technological and stronger powerplant with more potential?
hrmmm... this is a toughy. I really enjoy the mazda 3 and was actually lookin to get a new one after buying my mazda 6. But I personally prefer the Mazdaspeed. I've been kinda hooked on it since I drove my buddy's for a weekend.
This is a tough decision (huh)
My friend has a fully loaded Mazda3 5-door. I really like the build quality, but the MSP is so much easier to see out of, in my opinion. I think the Mazda3 is hands down a better car, I just prefer my car.
/shrug
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yeah pluto. I think if anyone can understand my dilemma it'd be you seeing as what you said pretty much nailed the problem on the head.
I feel there was more technology and build quality put into the mazda 3 and it seems like the aftermakrket has thusly gotten much more behind it as a platform.
However I still have a "taste" that the MPS left in my mouth so to speak. I don't know it's something about the decently quick car with great handling, good gas mileage, good looks, good equipment and great handling (for a FWD) that just left me kind of stricken.
I guess there's trade offs to either one... now just to decide (boom07)
I feel there was more technology and build quality put into the mazda 3 and it seems like the aftermakrket has thusly gotten much more behind it as a platform.
However I still have a "taste" that the MPS left in my mouth so to speak. I don't know it's something about the decently quick car with great handling, good gas mileage, good looks, good equipment and great handling (for a FWD) that just left me kind of stricken.
I guess there's trade offs to either one... now just to decide (boom07)
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pluto316 said:
Fo Sho... but almost seems like apples to oranges. Not to mention I could just as easily find the MZ3 used...
By the way I'm gonna stop threadjacking here and I'll create a thread of my own concerning this topic
Congrats again on the 12 sec pass
keep on rockin.hoping to get my car out to the strip before the local track closes to build the new strip. i'm running an ATX so don't think it will be as good as the 3's numbers, but should be pretty good. been able to run solid on race fuel at 15psi, so we'll see how it works out. i usually open track the car and would use my r compound yoko's for the strip, not ideal, but better than street tires.
on a side note, i know i can take a new speed6 without issues in stock form. given with a bit they'll be up there too, but for the price i can still spend a bit on mine as well. internals for summer, then should see at least 350hp i hope!
on a side note, i know i can take a new speed6 without issues in stock form. given with a bit they'll be up there too, but for the price i can still spend a bit on mine as well. internals for summer, then should see at least 350hp i hope!
if your dropping a new motor into a speed, i would drop in a FE3(FE DOHC) with the 2.2l SOHC crank, custom rods and pistons and you have a REAL 2.3l that loves to rev and can take 500HP daily without complaint.If you wanna keep it a 2.0 Stock rods can hold 400 and if you drop the comp a but the pistons might last too. PGT trans,clutch fywheel,starter with custom axles,mounts and a standalone 
with fries of course
with fries of course
