Manual Tranny trouble

[yiar]

Help, i don't understand why my 2002 p5's tranny is shot. all gears except for 2 & 3 are being rebuilt!!! it's covered under warrenty but i need to know what has happened....any advise/info????
it's taken for reg. check-ups and as far as i know it has nothing to do with my driving skills (boom07)

 

[ForceFed]

If there is nothing wrong with the way your driving it..then its just normal wear..The shift forks are weak in the '02's though....might be a contributing factor to this....but i doubt it...how many miles are we talking about on your car?

 

[yiar]

there's just over 57k

 

[Moonman8]

I don't know a lot about transmissions but without knowing what exactly blew up creating the need for a rebuild, I don't know what could have went wrong. Any diagnosis report from the dealer?

there's just over 57k

now see, you just scared the crap out of me because I've got about 53k on my P5.

The shift forks are weak in the '02's though

What did you mean by this? I have an 03 so does that mean I have stronger transmission internals than the 02? The fact that a complete tranny rebuild can be considered "normal wear" at 57k is just ******* scary.

Can anything be done to prevent a premature tranny crap-out besides not racing and shifting properly? I already switched to Redline synthetic oil but other than that, I'm not too sure about preventative maintenance.

 

[aMaff]

the 02.5's and later had the "fixed" shift forks, aka they won't break as easily . I haven't heard of an 02.5+ breaking one.

 

[pnfnj]

I don't know a lot about transmissions but without knowing what exactly blew up creating the need for a rebuild, I don't know what could have went wrong. Any diagnosis report from the dealer?


now see, you just scared the crap out of me because I've got about 53k on my P5.


What did you mean by this? I have an 03 so does that mean I have stronger transmission internals than the 02? The fact that a complete tranny rebuild can be considered "normal wear" at 57k is just ******* scary.

Can anything be done to prevent a premature tranny crap-out besides not racing and shifting properly? I already switched to Redline synthetic oil but other than that, I'm not too sure about preventative maintenance.

have no fear Moonman8 i've an 02p5 with 157,000km's on the original tranny...knock on wood...lol!

 

[Moonman8]

Good news for me! I'll just be sure to be light with it.

Now I'm curious as to why a tranny would need a "rebuild" at 57k miles. Rebuild sounds like a strong word implying that a crapload of stuff just went kaboom.

What did the dealer say exactly when they informed you of what the tranny needed?

 

[yiar]

the dealer didn't say a hell of alot. when i asked him if there was something that i had done wrong he informed me that sometimes tranny's just go. I find this hard to believe and being as no one else has had it happen....
i just don't really know what to make of it. than my other thought is that they'll patch it and it will kaboom again after warranty. (boom07)
i only really drive my car on the weekend so it couldn't be because of reg. wear and tear. which makes this tranny trouble even more mysterious.

If anyone has any info for me on what to do than please offer it up!

 

[Moonman8]

if you bought it used, maybe the previous owner screwed it up somehow. Maybe autocrossed it or just plain sucked at shifting properly. Racing puts a big dent in the life of a stock, open differential transaxle. When you get your car back, you should let us all know what was on the service invoice and what was replaced or repaired.

 

[yiar]

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[Batman]

Tranny problems

Help, i don't understand why my 2002 p5's tranny is shot. all gears except for 2 & 3 are being rebuilt!!! it's covered under warrenty but i need to know what has happened....any advise/info????
it's taken for reg. check-ups and as far as i know it has nothing to do with my driving skills (boom07)

My transmission was just rebuilt (twice). Once the shift forks were replaced all was good. There is a TSB regarding 3rd gear issues:

http://www.floptical.net/mazda/


Good luck.

 

[.paul]

Are you sure you weren't leaking trans fluid from the drain plug that wasn't tightened properly?

It sounds very sketch that the tranny would just go, then again it seems to me that mazda can't build a very reliable car. (this comment based on my observations from this community and the amount of people here complaining about stupid things going wrong with their cars and recalls.)

 

[Moonman8]

Are you sure you weren't leaking trans fluid from the drain plug that wasn't tightened properly?

It sounds very sketch that the tranny would just go, then again it seems to me that mazda can't build a very reliable car. (this comment based on my observations from this community and the amount of people here complaining about stupid things going wrong with their cars and recalls.)

I wouldn't go so far as to say Mazda builds an unreliable car. They are actually some of the best built cars in the world and they are actually built in Japan (at least most of the Protege's were but the Mazda6 is built in Michigan due to Ford's part ownership). I work at a Mazda and Volkswagen dealership and the only thing Mazdas regularly come in for is oil changes and quick inspections but Volkswagen issues recalls and TSB's at least monthly. We still get Volkswagens from the late 90's coming in for recalls. Also, the tranny problem with the 02 P5's was fixed in half a production year, (fixed in 02.5 as stated in a previous post). While I would never buy a Volkswagen until that particular model was in production for at least 3 years because that's how long it takes VW to work out the kinks in their cars. If you want to know the variety of stupid s*** that goes wrong with VW's then PM me and I'm sure you'll swear Mazda makes a 100% better car. One in particular is that the new GTI with all the cool commercials blows up the turbo wastegate during the technician's inspection before delivery (make the turbo supply boost for 10 miles and all of a sudden the whole car craps out).

 

[.paul]

I would think it's pretty common knowledge (at least among car communities) that VW makes some of the worst s*** anyone can buy.

My good friend has a 2000 something GTi that spent more time at the dealer than it did at his house.

So yeah, I have a strong dislike for their cars.

 

[aMaff]

Case and point...

 

[Moonman8]

I would think it's pretty common knowledge (at least among car communities) that VW makes some of the worst s*** anyone can buy.

My good friend has a 2000 something GTi that spent more time at the dealer than it did at his house.

So yeah, I have a strong dislike for their cars.

So wouldn't you say that any problems you've had with Mazdas aren't even comparable to some of the crap out there? At least I would and I've owned two Toyotas (an 81 Tercel (first car), and a 91 4Runner SR5 4WD both really damn good cars) and a 94 VW Jetta. On the MkIII Jetta's (the 2.0L not the VR6) you have to remove the entire intake manifold (which uses ******* weak-ass allen-style bolts as fasteners) just to change spark plugs, now ain't that a b****. I didn't have it long enough to have many problems but at work I see all that VW has to offer and it ain't much. They put on a good marketing campaign and they can be fast as s*** but only go fast for a little bit and then it's off to the dealer again.

Sorry about all this threadjacking. If anybody wants to know anymore VW horror stories, PM me.

 

[aMaff]

On the MkIII Jetta's (the 2.0L not the VR6) you have to remove the entire intake manifold (which uses ******* weak-ass allen-style bolts as fasteners) just to change spark plugs, now ain't that a b****.

Where I'm from, that's called fungeneering....

 

[yiar]

no leaks of any sort, i was however in a serious accident 6 months after i bought the car (jan 03). i rolled it side-to-side and was told that the only work that needed to be done was body!
could this be why the tranny went? i wouldn't think so, but who knows...

 

[.paul]

So wouldn't you say that any problems you've had with Mazdas aren't even comparable to some of the crap out there? At least I would and I've owned two Toyotas (an 81 Tercel (first car), and a 91 4Runner SR5 4WD both really damn good cars) and a 94 VW Jetta. On the MkIII Jetta's (the 2.0L not the VR6) you have to remove the entire intake manifold (which uses ******* weak-ass allen-style bolts as fasteners) just to change spark plugs, now ain't that a b****. I didn't have it long enough to have many problems but at work I see all that VW has to offer and it ain't much. They put on a good marketing campaign and they can be fast as s*** but only go fast for a little bit and then it's off to the dealer again.

Sorry about all this threadjacking. If anybody wants to know anymore VW horror stories, PM me.

I haven't actually had any problems with my car, yet. *knock on wood*