mAJOR PROBLEMS WITH ESSENTIAL SPEED TURBO KIT!

[MBFamilia]

Can anyone help me out? Besides the fact that this kit took forever to get, the kit was missing quite a bit of instructions and did not fit properly, my main problem right now is how to hook up the O2 modifier black box. Its a black box with a handful of wires coming out of it. Please help me with the lambda meter my car is running danerously rich in boost. Can any one help me?

 

[batmang]

anything from ES is a guranteed **** up.

 

[1FASTMSP]

i cannot find my instructions for the O2 modifier right now, but i will look again tomorrow, i know the big red is power, the black is ground, the small red is just for reading voltage so that you can adjust the signal along with using the ground, but the other two wires i cannot remember right now because of sleep deprivation. email ES and see if kevin can email you instructions for it. also make sure you hook up a vacuum source so that it can read vacuum/boost...that is all, i am going to bed

 

[MBFamilia]

thanks for the help, but if you do find the instructions, can you post them because I can never get a hold of Kevin from ES.
Thanks!!

 

[anarchistchiken]

wow, something else from ES screwed up....couldn't have seen this coming a mile away.

Whats the deal with protege vendors lately??

 

[changedman]

dangerously rich?

umm. you aren't going to kill your car running too RICH. you'll just stall it a LOT.

 

[anarchistchiken]

I think he meant the boost is running higher than it should be. Could be wrong though...

 

[LinuxRacr]

You can kill your ride from being too rich. Your rings, will get washed down with fuel and fail over time.

 

[david_shea]

what car do you have?

 

[mikem]

Forgive my ignorance with the es kit, but how do you know how rich you are running? The narrowband o2 sensor you have probably tapped into was not designed to read that nice 12/1 ratio you probably desire. If you are using a wideband sensor forgive me. When boosting with a narrowband sensor you pretty much want it to be pegged rich when in boost. Rich is definitely safer than lean and running too rich will lose some hp, but again it is safer. The MSP ecu will run the car rich as hell, and it will do so when additional boost is added into the equation. Take your car to a dyno and find out what you are really doing. If you have a stalling problem you might want to look at your bov. If it's not recirculated, then it could be the culprit. More info is really needed to help you here.

 

[MBFamilia]

when we were trying to tune the car, we were using a wideband sensor. That's how we knew that the air/fuel was running in the 12s when boosting then the meter would climb to 13s, 14s, then 15s. That's why my P5 is running dangerously lean. We installed the O2 modifier that ES provided us, but that really didn't do much either. So we still don't know what could be the problem.
can anyone help?
thanks!!

 

[acidbug]

Wow..do not run your car in boost w/ a/f into 13's & 14's...

Kabloowie!

 

[mikem]

So you are running lean in boost, not rich. I'm assuming you installed a FMU, or did your kit come with a piggyback fuel computer? If you have neither, then there is your problem. But if you have one or the other, you might want to check your rise rate on the fmu or play with the fuel computer's values at the boosted rpm's range. In the mean time I'm going to look at this kit you have and see for myself.

 

[MBFamilia]

thanks for your help!!!
no, i didn't get a piggy back computer with the ES kit that i got. meanwhile, i did install the fmu, so you think there's something wrong with the FMU?

 

[mikem]

I would check to make sure the FMU is installed properly(not doubting your skills), If it is, I would check the inernals and make sure there are no internal failures or vaccum leaks. Good luck

 

[KzA]

yea your having a fmu problem..i would post a picture of your fmu and the way the lines are ran to it, you may have some lines mixed up