They USED to be dead reliable. You can drive them 200-300K without any issues. Since htey had the V6s, lots of tranny problems since the mid 2000s.
Not as realiable anymore...but they once were
M5s marketed incorrectly?
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They USED to be dead reliable. You can drive them 200-300K without any issues. Since htey had the V6s, lots of tranny problems since the mid 2000s.
Not as realiable anymore...but they once were
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It depends on which one you choose. I traded in a 2008 Honda Fit for my M5 and I can tell you the Fit is one of, if not THE most reliable car you can buy. At least it has been since it's been built in Japan. Check Consumers Reports, True Delta, JD Power, anything you want. It is astoundingly reliable and had the lowest cost of ownership of any car.
That said, Honda has fallen a bit from it's pedestal of perfect reliability. I blame cost-cutting, resting on their laurels and...perhaps decisions like this boneheaded move to build the Fit in Mexico. It was a car with one of the most flawless reliability records there is and as soon as they moved production they suddenly have an embarrassing failure in quality control that forces them to bring the cars back in and delay delivery to the dealerships. They managed to built 2 generations of Fit's for the last 13 years in Japan without this problem. Just sayin'...
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Honda is still good at those things, if you pick the right Honda. A previous gen Fit, the S2000, an Acura built in Japan. But it is a shame that level of quality isn't pervasive throughout their lineup the way it once was. The old Honda never compromised when it came to that kind of thing.
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Honda's manual transmissions are excellent. I can't speak to the automatics as I've only ever owned two cars with automatic transmissions and it wasn't by choice haha.
I have owned a 87 and 91 Wagovan. The predecessor to the Fit.
My moms Honda Jazz (Fit) has 385K miles. ALl original. My dad's NSX has 418K miles, daily driven since 1992. No snap ring problem even.
Honda can build good cars. I am a fan boi. My AP1 S2000 had bulletproof 168K miles till I traded it on the AP2.
Their TL-S tranny probs, Accord tranny probs, Ody tranny probelms haven't helped.
I love the current gen Accord Sport Manual trans 4 door. Wish the manual trans didnt come in only 2 colors. Otherwise I would trade my MS3 for the Accord Sport.
Agree, though I support bringing home jobs, imports built here have lost quality. My in-laws are Toyota fans and I have driven their cars since the 90s. To me the recent models are the worst quality. Might be a quencidence, but all the recalls and problems seem to align to them making them in the states. As for tranny problems on Hondas, never have had a problem on the ones I had, but they were manuals.
Edit: I was answering to last page comment lol.
Edit: I was answering to last page comment lol.
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I can has link plz? K thx.
The build quality on my folks Canadian made 2012 MDX was very good, so was our Marysville made 2006 Accord. But Acura money should bring better quality. And 8 years is an eternity in the auto business.
I had an 88 Legend with a manual. It was an entirely different animal to drive(more fun) than the 89 auto I had. And the 88 was an old used car by the time I had it in early 2000. That shifter was nearly as good as the Miata.
socialcarpet
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Yep, he's right I can confirm this.
Toyota's first wholly-owned U.S. plant opened in Georgetown, Kentucky in 1987.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motor_Manufacturing_Kentucky
Prior to this they had a factory in Fremont, Californina they operated jointly with GM called NUMMI, New United Motor Manufacturing, or something like that. That was technically Toyota's first shot at building cars in the U.S. and it opened in 1984.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUMMI
NUMMI built the Toyota Corolla based Chevy Nova there, followed by the Geo Prizm model that was a rebadged Toyota Corolla along side some of the Corollas for the USDM. That was followed by the Pontiac Vibe (a rebadged Toyota Matrix and the Toyota Matrix itself were built there too I believe. A certain number of Toyota Tacoma pickup trucks were built at NUMMI for a number of years too.
Toyota and GM closed the plant some years ago. Interesting bit of trivia: Tesla actually bought the old NUMMI plant and it is where Tesla builds their cars today.
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I was asking for a link to the Lafayette-made Scoobys versus the Japanese ones.
Never thought I would grant a request by a Trojan, but here goes
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums...ns/14509-japan-made-vs-us-made-subarus-3.html
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/104-gen-4-2010-2014/31102-build-quality-japan-v-us.html
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Never thought I would grant a request by a Trojan, but here goes
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums...ns/14509-japan-made-vs-us-made-subarus-3.html
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/104-gen-4-2010-2014/31102-build-quality-japan-v-us.html
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