M.Moore and F. 9/11 Completely Debunked

Yawn....
Hey I saw a very interesting special on CNN last night called "Dead Wrong: Intelligence Meltdown". It was about how the Bush Administration "cooked" or "manufactured" their case for the invasion of Iraq around false, unchecked, "thin" and just plain false intelligence. Then they all (Bush, Powell, Rice, Cheney & Rumsfeld) started popping up on TV telling us this bogus s*** about Iraq in order to scare us along. I admit, while it was going on I fell for it too. The majority of us did. Now it just turns out to be more lies from our (insert adjective here) administration.

War on terror.... gimme a ******* break
 
you didnt even read the article. this has nothing to do about anything but the slew of lies found in the video.
 
yes, i tend to use the chapelle show as my source of political knowledge as well :rolleyes:

try to at least read the article, people, past the first paragraph. you know, the article with REAL sources of information.
 
Matthew said:
you didnt even read the article. this has nothing to do about anything but the slew of lies found in the video.

That's from the "Ethics and Public Policy Center". HAHAHAHAHA!
Just more Conservative, Religious Right bulls***.
They had to counter the film because it proclaims what a criminal Bush really is. I wonder where their funding comes from?

BTW: I have never seen the film. I don't need to see it.
 
who cares WHO it comes from, so long as they provide legitimate sources to back up their claims.
 
Matthew said:
yes, i tend to use the chapelle show as my source of political knowledge as well :rolleyes:

try to at least read the article, people, past the first paragraph. you know, the article with REAL sources of information.

no you watch fox news, i read it and its stupid, jed bush doesn't have to be involved he can have other people involved for him
 
Matthew said:

O.K. now check this out:

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/org/eppc.php

And this:

EPPC has functioned as the cutting edge of the neoconservative-driven culture war against progressive theology and secularism, and the associated effort to ensure right-wing control of the Republican Party.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ethics_and_Public_Policy_Center


And this about the head of this group:

During the 1990s, Abrams worked for a number of think tanks and eventually became head of the Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC) where he wrote widely on foreign policy issues. He remained an integral part of the tight-knit neoconservative foreign policy community in Washington that revolved around one of his early mentors, Richard Perle, and former United Nations Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick at the American Enterprise Institute. Abrams is a member of the staunchly neocononservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and was one of the signatories of the January 26, 1998, PNAC Letter sent to President Clinton which called for "regime-change" in Iraq. Critics of the Bush administration see the letter as evidence that a second Gulf War was a foregone conclusion.

Like Perle, Abrams favors a Mideast strategy based on the overwhelming military power of both the United States and Israel and on a military alliance between Israel and Turkey against what are considered hostile Arab states, such as Syria and Iran, in order to create a "broader strategic context" that would ensure whatever state might emerge on Palestinian territory would be pro-American. Abrams is a staunch defender of Israel, and has publicly assailed the "land-for-peace" formula that has guided US policy in the Arab-Israeli conflict since the 1967 war.


http://www.answers.com/topic/elliott-abrams
 
YellowSpeedInNY said:
and you wear shorts with black shoes and white high socks whats your point

Oh really? Do you have a pic? I've been thinking about a new avatar (flame)
 
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Come on guys, we all know Micheal Moore is a Douche, he had some great points on some things, but most of the time hes a douche. It was a good read, nothing that i didnt expect though. But everyone and anyone that has to do with politics is a liar. Politicians=Lies. Take for example now, it is all coming down for our current administration. Just like the last. The thing we have to do is weed out the ones that dont lie as much, and vote for them
 
I refuse to discuss any topic in any thread that matthew starts, I'd rather go break my hand against the fireplace again, oops, gotta go...
 
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