LSD Removal -- What If?

[mraasch]

If, perhaps, you wanted to remove the LSD in the MSP, what would you have to do to make it drivable?
Would you need to replace the LSD with other parts?
Don't know much about this...

 

[Stormtrooper77]

Why would you want to do that?

 

[flat_black]

Honestly, if you wanted to do that, you'd be cracking the tranny open... I'd say it'd just be a lot easier if you dropped the tranny, and replaced it with a normal Protege5/MP3/Protege 2.0L tranny, and maybe throw on a set of beefier axles in the meantime, so you don't have to worry about the differences there. Open diff sucks, but a broken LSD isn't exactly useful, alas.

 

[mraasch]

Because for daily driving the constant tugging (by, presumably, the LSD) on the steering wheel becomes annoying...

 

[mraasch]

Maybe I'm just uninformed, but my brother has a 190 HP DSM turbo (without LSD) and I've also driven the Acura RSX-S several times (with no LSD) and, for my type of driving, I didn't notice any traction, wheelspin, etc. issues with these cars AND the fact that nothing was tugging at the steering wheel made it much more enjoyable to drive...

 

[mspdfreak]

I have to second the question..."Why would you want to do that?!" Why not just yank out the turbo, too? I mean, the lack of an LSD was the first thing dodge fixed in the 2004 srt-4. I'd love to know any reason conceivable to remove the LSD.

 

[Stormtrooper77]

Are you sure it's your LSD? Your alignment could be way off, it could be that your tires are worn unevenly, and your roads in your area could be causing your wheels to track.

What do you mean by "daily driving"? Accelerating, decelerating, constant speed? Seriously there should be no "tugging" on the steering wheel unless you have one of the above problems. If this is happening during acceleration, then it is torque steer.

...wait isn't there a post on this already?

 

[drumsbeloud]

turbo mp5 here with no LSD....and i still have the "tugging" at the wheel, or torque-steer. you WANT the LSD for accelerating out of corners so you have better grip and your inside wheel doesn't spin. don't remove your LSD.

 

[flat_black]

The LSD isn't what's yanking on your steering wheel, perse; That would be 'torque steer'. Acura's don't have a problem with it (No torque, no torque steer), and a bunch of DSM's are 4WD, which aleviates the problem as well; I think the FWD ones also have equal length axles, which our cars don't. I also don't beleive they produce the low end grunt our cars do.

And yes, my P5 also has the wheel tug... I just don't notice it, given the fact that I'm used to it. =)

 

[Natey]

Damn, If I were near you, I'd offer to trade. I wish I has an LSD in my P5.

 

[JCell]

how many miles on your tranny, i might trade you my es tranny for your msp tranny if u still want to get rid of the lsd, my tranny has 12000 on it

 

[mraasch]

Well, have any other MSPers noticed that when you turn the steering wheel (even the slightest bit) that it REALLY wants to go back to center and that you have to wrangle it with both hands to keep it in the direction that YOU want to go?
That's basically what I'm talking about...

 

[Stormtrooper77]

Uhmm, all cars are like that. Try taking a turn and letting go the steering wheel mid turn. It will straighten itself out. Maybe you're not used to a car that handles as good as the MSP does.

 

[mraasch]

Probably not.
That could very well be true.
Haven't owned a front wheel drive car in about 12 years, so am having difficulty coming to terms that the front wheels steer, drive the car, have the LSD attached to them, etc. (basically everything).
Guess I'm the "old fashioned" type who thinks that rear-wheel drive cars make better performance cars...

 

[Stormtrooper77]

...Guess I'm the "old fashioned" type who thinks that rear-wheel drive cars make better performance cars...

I guess I'm "old fashioned" as well because they still do.

 

[flat_black]

Yep, no argument; FWD is an economy thing. Just like some of the old RR/MR cars were made that way because it was cheaper; No drive shaft, and whatnot.

 

[jeffmsp]

the steering wheel pulls to align itself in all of the 3 mazdas I have owned, maybe you could find a way to adjust it, but seriously how big of a problem can it be for you? |I manage to drive with my knees (out in the boonies) and can take care of it, just hold onto the wheel.

 

[rocketspeed]

Probably not.
That could very well be true.
Haven't owned a front wheel drive car in about 12 years, so am having difficulty coming to terms that the front wheels steer, drive the car, have the LSD attached to them, etc. (basically everything).
Guess I'm the "old fashioned" type who thinks that rear-wheel drive cars make better performance cars...

The MSP will outhandle a lot of RWD performance cars. I'm not saying RWD isn't better for setting up a performance car, because it is, what I'm saying is that the MSP really handles - compared to anything - RWD, AWD, FWD.