LinuxRacr's Haltech E6X Log..
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ELEmental59437
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I am not going to read through 26 pages of nonsence so here is my review of the before and after difference with the Haltec.
PERFECT!.. The Haltecs tuning capabilities really smoothed out the shift of power when the turbo kicks in, and made it overall a way more reliable car. Some of the reliability issues were from wiring and expiriments through time to try and get the MPI running smoother, but a lot were just with the overall ability of the tuning device.
For the pure fact that you can control exactly how much fuel and timing really gave Linux's car everything that he needed to get the most power out of his turbo safely. The ride in his car before, the car would lurch when the power kicked in, and he couldnt go full throttle without leaning out. There was just too many problems with the stock ECU not liking what the MPI was going. I wont diss the MPI because for some applications it is very useful. I will also be installing an MPI withing the next two weeks on a MSP, so I definatly am not putting it down as a product. Just for the power that Patrick is wanting to get out, the Haltech does more than serve all the needs. The car feels SOO much smoother now, and tuning it wont be a daily event again. Plus he can finally put back that corner of the carpet and cover up his ecu for good.. lol
Overall, I highly reccommend the Haltech for tuning our cars. I have one on my car so maybe I am partial.. I havent had a single problem with it.
PERFECT!.. The Haltecs tuning capabilities really smoothed out the shift of power when the turbo kicks in, and made it overall a way more reliable car. Some of the reliability issues were from wiring and expiriments through time to try and get the MPI running smoother, but a lot were just with the overall ability of the tuning device.
For the pure fact that you can control exactly how much fuel and timing really gave Linux's car everything that he needed to get the most power out of his turbo safely. The ride in his car before, the car would lurch when the power kicked in, and he couldnt go full throttle without leaning out. There was just too many problems with the stock ECU not liking what the MPI was going. I wont diss the MPI because for some applications it is very useful. I will also be installing an MPI withing the next two weeks on a MSP, so I definatly am not putting it down as a product. Just for the power that Patrick is wanting to get out, the Haltech does more than serve all the needs. The car feels SOO much smoother now, and tuning it wont be a daily event again. Plus he can finally put back that corner of the carpet and cover up his ecu for good.. lol
Overall, I highly reccommend the Haltech for tuning our cars. I have one on my car so maybe I am partial.. I havent had a single problem with it.
ELEmental59437 said:
Pat never had the MPI running right on his car until the few days before he removed it. It took that long to track down all of the problems he had with the car. So he never spent any real amount of time tuning the MPI with his car right to see how it runs.
Even with all of the screwed up problems with his car he never had any cold start problems with the MPI Tuner. I have yet to see anyone run and standalone and big injectors and not have some type of starting problems. There is no reason at all why Pats car not have made the same power with the MPI Tuner as with any standalone.
I still have not see any of these so called great running standalone/big injector cars making more power then the MPI cars.
ELEmental59437
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MPNick said:
I no longer have any startup problem or cold start problems..... RyanJayG helped me adjust a few settings. Simple as that.
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- 2002 BJFW, 2007 BK3P, 1979 SA22C, 2005 BK3P
ELEmental59437 said:
i don't have the so called cold start issues either. nor do most of hiboost turbo kit/haltech users. then there's the "i don't need to give a reason why, it just won't work because i say so nyah nyah." but some people like to flog a dead horse as much as they can.
yes we know people get alot of power with the mpi tuner. yes we know people have had issues with the unit and we know how you feel about those issues. yes we also know alot of people have bought mpi tuners. alot of that has to do with price and availbility. it was and is out there and much cheaper than many other options and that makes a big difference. saying an option is the best option when it was for a time the only viable option is a stupid slippery slope argument. to this day no one is actively pushing a standalone for sale other than TurfBurn and when the time comes, MAM with the AEM.
juan makes 300 whp and ran a 12.5 on the e6x and it drives/idles just fine. terry ran a standalone as well and steve will again when his engine is complete. i don't think thats something to be sneezed at. so what if patrick switched to another system? so what if dana wired his unit differently and likes how it works now? who cares that I don't like it? what the hell does it really matter? its not like its going to put Modern Performance out of business, lol. this thread is about how patrick's current system works and what he is doing with it, not about a who's ems penis is bigger contest. goddamn just get over it.
jrodhotrod
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Right on the money Ken.Captain KRM P5 said:
Let's all give the whose EMS system is better game a rest and let Patrick document his experience with the E6x. I know that it has been very valuable to me, and I am sure it will prove valuable to E6x owners to come.
MPNick said:
Again, this has all been discussed before. This thread is about the progress of the E6X on my car, and the things I have had to do to get it to work "right". This thread is NOT about the Stock ECU or my past experiences with the MPI. There are other threads about that. Of course my car is going to have cold starting issues until the startup is tunned properly. I chose to remove the Stock ECU from the control of startup, which in essence made me into the new engineer of my car's engine management. Am I ok with that? Yes! Do I realize that I will have to tune out potential issues such as startup? Yes! Do I realize that it won't run exactly like stock anymore? Yes! Do I really care? Can't say that I do. My car hasn't been stock for a long time, and probably never will be again. It takes a group of engineers tuning a stock car's ECU 2 years to do the tuning before they release a car for production. Knowing this fact, I expect to have issues tuning my aftermarket ECU. As far as making more power, I don't care about being the fastest anymore. I just want reliable speed with the potential to push more. 300 WHP will be good enough for me. Let's go ahead and give the big injectors vs extra injectors a rest in my thread here, and get back to the facts.
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- 2001 Mazda MP3
I'm with linux. I also want a nice 300whp! w00t!
jrodhotrod
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uhmmm.... me three me three!pdhaudio83 said:
(That's the goal and I'll find out in the next couple of weeks if we made it. 0n 91 Octane that is
) Coldstart issues will be resolved with time jrodhotrod said:uhmmm.... me three me three!
(That's the goal and I'll find out in the next couple of weeks if we made it. 0n 91 Octane that is
I'm going to be finding out how much power can be made with 8.9:1 pistons and 93 octane gas and pushing the timing to the ragged ragged edge (Yay JandS!
)So however much that is... whether it be 19 psi or 26 psi... I'll tackle it.. my turbo is only good to about 25 psi though... but hell if I can make it there that'll be just sick... (effective compression ratio of roughly 23:1!!!!!!)
Just very cool that you guys are doign well with the Haltech's and we'll finally start getting standalone dynos and a much better working knowledge of cold start tuning amongst a number of us.
Later!
Steve
Yep, a map contains all your settings too. Here is more info on the heat ranges of plugs: http://www.densoiridium.com/heatranges.htm
