SpcyOrangeMSP03
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- 2003 MSP
i was j/w if anyone on here has been able to give there car back due to the lemon law? or how to go about doing it?
lemon law
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OhioMSPinNJ
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- 2004 Dodge Ram HEMI
I went through the lemon law less than a year ago, regarding a Bonneville SSEi. What questions do you have regarding the process...
melbourne_mp5
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- 2005 Honda Element
I lemon law-ed my B2500 a few years ago. If you provide some details, I might be able to help.
BinaryRotary
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- 03 MSP, 85 RX-7 GS, 90 RX-7 TII
Please, post about the lemon law.
Post what??
The only thing I think the MSP could possibly fall under lemon law rules for the infamous "clunk"...
But does drivability be affected to fall under this law???
I've contemplated going for this b/c if I try to sell the car in a couple of years and its' clunlking away it will hurt my ability to sell the car
Ilan
The only thing I think the MSP could possibly fall under lemon law rules for the infamous "clunk"...
But does drivability be affected to fall under this law???
I've contemplated going for this b/c if I try to sell the car in a couple of years and its' clunlking away it will hurt my ability to sell the car
Ilan
melbourne_mp5
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- 2005 Honda Element
No, it does not have to affect driveability (in Florida anyways). If your state participates, then you received a really detailed book with the paperwork for your car. I recommend reading that. I did, followed the steps outlined, and Mazda bought back my truck (eventually), for an issue that had nothing to do with driveability.
I have had so many problems with my msp. Its been in the shop now for over a week now and I still don't have it back. You name it I had it. Turbo had to be replaced, the crappy pipping broke off, braking problems, stereo problems, shifter problems. So far this car has been a reliability nightmare.
Yeah I'm going in for the third time about a rattling rear deck, I think in California if the problem isn't fixed within the third attempt it can be lemon'd. I'd lemon my car for another MSP because like I said in another thread, I'm sure my MSP has the worst rattle here.
mountjonas
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- 2013 VRM MS3
I think that the car also has to be in the shop for 30 days to be considered a lemon in CA.
OhioMSPinNJ
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- 2004 Dodge Ram HEMI
Depending on your state will determine what factors can fall under the Lemon Law. The "30 Day Rule" is not the only factor out there. For example; the car that I had go throught the law went to the dealer to be fixed 5 seperate times for the same problem (stalled while going 65mph down I-71 and a few other times). So once again it depends on your state. Go to Yahoo or Google and search "lemon law" in your state. There will be lawyers who will work with you to figure it out.
melbourne_mp5
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- 2005 Honda Element
I was really patient with Mazda, and took the truck back for well over 3 trips for the same problem. I actually did 10 trips. After that, I researched the lemon law and found that I met the 3 trip criteria AND the 30 days out of my possession criteria. I had to send a registered letter and form notifying mazda that I was invoking the lemon law. That took a week to get there. They called me and set up an appointment with their regional tech guru, which was about 2 weeks from them calling. They verified the problem was still occurring, and within 10 days they bought the truck back from me. I think I had to send some form to the state's attorney general... I honestly can't remember each hurdle.
If anyone is going to do this, my advice is patience and persistence, and keep all maintenance documentation. You have to put up with quite a bit of dealer BS to "build your case", but once you've got a well documented lemon issue, escalate it up to the regional level, and then follow the guidelines for your state.
Hope this helps.
If anyone is going to do this, my advice is patience and persistence, and keep all maintenance documentation. You have to put up with quite a bit of dealer BS to "build your case", but once you've got a well documented lemon issue, escalate it up to the regional level, and then follow the guidelines for your state.
Hope this helps.
ELEmental59437
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- 2002 P5, 1978 F250
I'm on my third time to the dealer on my transmission problem 
... I smell lemons...
... I smell lemons...The famous lemon law:
*The Vehicle has a serious defect or abnormal condition(CLUNK!!)
*The defect or condition is covered by a manufacturer's written warranty
*The owner reports the defect or condition to the dealer or manufacturer within the warranty term
*The owner gives the dealer or manufacturer a reasonable number of attempts to repear the defect or condition
*The defect or condition persisits and substantially impairs the vehicle's use or market value,or creates a serious safety hazard
*The Vehicle has a serious defect or abnormal condition(CLUNK!!)
*The defect or condition is covered by a manufacturer's written warranty
*The owner reports the defect or condition to the dealer or manufacturer within the warranty term
*The owner gives the dealer or manufacturer a reasonable number of attempts to repear the defect or condition
*The defect or condition persisits and substantially impairs the vehicle's use or market value,or creates a serious safety hazard
There are 3 types of test to see if your car passes as a lemon:
1. Four-Times Test
* If you have taken your vehicle to a dealership for repairs*
*two times for the same problem or defect withing the first 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever comes first
*twice more during the 12 months or 12,000 miles after the second repair attempt
*the problem is still not repaired- you pass the four-times test
2. Serious-Safety-Hazard-Test
*If you have taken the vehicle for repair of a serious safety hazard*
* once during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles
*once more during the 12 months or 12,000 miles following the first repair attempt, and
*the problem is still not repaired-you pass the serious-safety-hazard-test
3. 30 day test
*If your vehicle has been out of service for repair because of problems covered by warranty*
* for a total of 30 days or more-not necessarily all at one time-during the first 24 months or 24,000 miles and
*there were two repair attempts during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles immediately after delivery, and
*a substantial problem still exists, you pass the 30 day test
(But during the 30 day test, where the dealer gets you is that if they gave you a loaner fo that amount of time, then the 30 day test has no effect)
1. Four-Times Test
* If you have taken your vehicle to a dealership for repairs*
*two times for the same problem or defect withing the first 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever comes first
*twice more during the 12 months or 12,000 miles after the second repair attempt
*the problem is still not repaired- you pass the four-times test
2. Serious-Safety-Hazard-Test
*If you have taken the vehicle for repair of a serious safety hazard*
* once during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles
*once more during the 12 months or 12,000 miles following the first repair attempt, and
*the problem is still not repaired-you pass the serious-safety-hazard-test
3. 30 day test
*If your vehicle has been out of service for repair because of problems covered by warranty*
* for a total of 30 days or more-not necessarily all at one time-during the first 24 months or 24,000 miles and
*there were two repair attempts during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles immediately after delivery, and
*a substantial problem still exists, you pass the 30 day test
(But during the 30 day test, where the dealer gets you is that if they gave you a loaner fo that amount of time, then the 30 day test has no effect)
