Laloosh gets tuned

[dadasracecar]

You're confusing hate with doubt. I tuned mine with maf voltage instead of tps. I also left the timing at zero as I was already running 12-14 deg advance at the upper rpms. Knock sensors don't work well at upper rpms and I was wary of hurting my motor. The screen shot is of my fueling tune.

 

[driver311]

You guys should be tuning with a wideband. Laloosh I really recommend a aem uego. Way more accurate than any other method mentioned. None of those methods you guys are using are accurate. The wideband on the dyno shows a full power leaner than my uego does. I have tested this theory on over 20 cars on the dyno and street. The 02 sensor in theI car is just as inaccurate as the one on the dyno. Im guessing your car is in the 10s laloosh. Borrow someones lm1 or uego to find out for yourself, if you dont want to take my word for it. Ill be doing all my dyno testing hopefully next week. Ill be testing pump, intake, tmic and upped boost. I took my car back to testpipe only to show all the differences.

 

[laloosh]

plugged in my previous settings into a car with a lmc1 or whatever its caledd and they were dead on. The reason why i got the dashawk over any other wideband was because i really dotn feel like taking off the dp just to weld a bung. I have a cat, space is limited, even if it is drilled, the material will get stuck in the cat.....its just to much of a pita.

 

[Haltech]

You guys should be tuning with a wideband. Laloosh I really recommend a aem uego. Way more accurate than any other method mentioned. None of those methods you guys are using are accurate. The wideband on the dyno shows a full power leaner than my uego does. I have tested this theory on over 20 cars on the dyno and street. The 02 sensor in theI car is just as inaccurate as the one on the dyno. Im guessing your car is in the 10s laloosh. Borrow someones lm1 or uego to find out for yourself, if you dont want to take my word for it. Ill be doing all my dyno testing hopefully next week. Ill be testing pump, intake, tmic and upped boost. I took my car back to testpipe only to show all the differences.

If he is going to spend his hard earned cash on a Wideband, the AEM would be the last one i would be looking at... LM-1 baby

 

[Haltech]

plugged in my previous settings into a car with a lmc1 or whatever its caledd and they were dead on. The reason why i got the dashawk over any other wideband was because i really dotn feel like taking off the dp just to weld a bung. I have a cat, space is limited, even if it is drilled, the material will get stuck in the cat.....its just to much of a pita.

DP doesnt have to be taken off bro.. Slide over to a muffler shop.. The will drill the hole, weld the bung and $20, youre off!

 

[laloosh]

DP doesnt have to be taken off bro.. Slide over to a muffler shop.. The will drill the hole, weld the bung and $20, youre off!

it does when you have a cat, plus all the drilling left overs will be stuck btwn the cat and the turbo, last thing i want is that geting sucked into the turbo somehow or clogging the cat. I've looked into this and cried for weeks already....the last thing i want to do is remove the downpipe again lol, fucken PITA

 

[SpdFreak]

The Evo guys have been street tuning their cars with a wideband, boost guage, MBC and an A/F controller (Apexi VAFC, SAFC, Neo). No look at spark.

 

[nypest]

Why would the stock WB be ok for "Mazda" and the ECU if it was inacurate? I mean whats the point why even bother?

 

[nypest]

Using the Dashhawk if you log the relation between the commanded and the actual AFR from the factory WB sensor they are practaly right on top of one another. Using the data you can actually see the computer adjusting to its WB reading.

 

[SpdFreak]

Only answer is to weld an o2 bung into laloosh's car and have him barrow a quality wideband from a friend. Then video the results for proof.

 

[palerider]

I thought you had a Vibrant cat on your car.... isnt that in the midpipe? Or did they weld the cat into the downpipe?

Cause if the cats still in the midpipe, couldnt you just pull it off while they weld the bung?.... no shavings in the cat then right?

 

[nypest]

Well MSD has a unit comming out called the hawkEye supposed to to able to add a WB&EGT sensorof your choice to the Dashhawk. If the comparison isnt up by then i will surely contribute.

 

[driver311]

Haltech lm1 is good but aem uego is proven to be THE MOST ACCURATE wideband on the market. If I didnt run aem i would get the lm1.

 

[Haltech]

Haltech lm1 is good but aem uego is proven to be THE MOST ACCURATE wideband on the market. If I didnt run aem i would get the lm1.

The last test report i read, reported the LM-1 as the most accurate, fastest UEGO you could buy for the money. I have it saved on my desktop at work. I cant find which thread it was posted on, but it was really recent. A Ford site did a shootout and a guy copies the PDF and posted it for us somewhere in the MS3 section 3-4 weeks ago. I own the LC-1 which is even a better version of it with a real nice gauge.

I got my kit here...

 

[laloosh]

i have a cat in the downpipe. I have a custom exhaust, think of a cpe tbe with a highflow cat, but not cpe lol. Just got back from tunning. Figured out the software problem. I will update this thread in the first post with screen shots of my a/f ratios and screen shots of the final tune.

 

[Haltech]

i have a cat in the downpipe. I have a custom exhaust, think of a cpe tbe with a highflow cat, but not cpe lol. Just got back from tunning. Figured out the software problem. I will update this thread in the first post with screen shots of my a/f ratios and screen shots of the final tune.

Well you can place that wideband bung somewhere before that highflow cat.. It doesnt have to be in the DP. What was the software problem, besides Vista? lol

 

[laloosh]

bump for new results: post 1

 

[laloosh]

Well you can place that wideband bung somewhere before that highflow cat.. It doesnt have to be in the DP. What was the software problem, besides Vista? lol

the problem is that the cat is in the downpipe, where the stock one would be, so any type of drilling will leave particles stuck int he cat. I though about this for a long as time and came to the conclusion that spending 7-8 hours to weld a bung is not worth it. I feel that the dashhawk does a great job

 

[Haltech]

the problem is that the cat is in the downpipe, where the stock one would be, so any type of drilling will leave particles stuck int he cat. I though about this for a long as time and came to the conclusion that spending 7-8 hours to weld a bung is not worth it. I feel that the dashhawk does a great job

The Second cat Loosh, not the pre-cat. Anyhow, interesting results. Cant really see the tune that well since the picture is on imageshack and not displaying full res. The other pics look great. It would be really interesting to see that tune from an LC-1 or other wideband that does datalogging to see if the AFR is smoother. Im not sure of the updating specs for the stock wideband. That thing would really pull in an animalistic manner if you added some timing though!(nana)

 

[SpdFreak]

I cant find which thread it was posted on, but it was really recent. A Ford site did a shootout and a guy copies the PDF and posted it for us somewhere in the MS3 section 3-4 weeks ago.

Heres the link. Link

Driver311 was the one to start the thread.