Jet Blue plane making emergency landing LIVE
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nonameheroes said:
Pilots that fly airliners are trained to expect that s*** can happen. But yes most of it is reliant on the aircraft. I have my pilots license. I'm certified to fly any aircraft with 15 or less pasengers (small lear gets,gulfstreem,cessna,piper,etc.) I can also fly helicopters. On my final test the cessna 182 I was flying lost engine power at 3000ft 20miles from the airfield. I ended up landing it in a hay field.lol granted that was much easier than landing an airbus but it goes to the point that pilots are prepared for s*** like thi8s. and if they can do somthing like this they woill not make it through the aptitude tes. I didn't. if I had I probably be flying 777s for united.
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that was a great landing, i watched it live. Anyone else notice that when he came to a stop that it was right on the line in the middle of the runway...doesnt get more perfect than that....
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the sad thing is, I wonder how many people were watching this & thinking "Damn I wanna see this thing go up in flames"
the sad thing is, I wonder how many people were watching this & thinking "Damn I wanna see this thing go up in flames"
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slayer4u said:
pick up a paper and read it.
yeah and WTF-- TEXTBOOK emergency landing? what the ****?
time to stop slamming and come down and think like the rest of us.
yesiownaskyline
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couple things...
1) pilot was a chick. SHE did a good job...
2) This EXACT incident has happened twice before. The first was an America West flight, same results. The second, ironically, was another jetblue flight from Buffalo to JFK. Once again, same results, just a lot less publicized.
3) This was a textbook landing. Nothing special, thats why they are paid that much. The key to it was to move the CG behind the wheels by moving passengers and/or luggage, reduce airspeed to 5 knots above stalling, and hold that nose as long as possible.
It was a job well done, certainly, but in reality the media blew it wayyyyy outta proportion. Just a slow news day I guess.
1) pilot was a chick. SHE did a good job...
2) This EXACT incident has happened twice before. The first was an America West flight, same results. The second, ironically, was another jetblue flight from Buffalo to JFK. Once again, same results, just a lot less publicized.
3) This was a textbook landing. Nothing special, thats why they are paid that much. The key to it was to move the CG behind the wheels by moving passengers and/or luggage, reduce airspeed to 5 knots above stalling, and hold that nose as long as possible.
It was a job well done, certainly, but in reality the media blew it wayyyyy outta proportion. Just a slow news day I guess.
he's right; a textbook emergency landing.
if you went to driving school at some point, you'd see that they not only treach you how to handle the car but how to handle the car should things not go the way as planned; textbook emergencies.
pilots go through several situational scenarios, including 'emergencies' so they are prepared for the actions that need to be taken; this is one example of someone who stayed awake in training.
if you went to driving school at some point, you'd see that they not only treach you how to handle the car but how to handle the car should things not go the way as planned; textbook emergencies.
pilots go through several situational scenarios, including 'emergencies' so they are prepared for the actions that need to be taken; this is one example of someone who stayed awake in training.
bestmazda01 said:
Have you ever piloted a plane before? have you ever had training to fly a plane? I have. I wanted to fly airliners but I couldn't do it. those pilots are the best of the best when it comes to civilian pilots. They get payed VERY good money to land those planes when s*** goes wrong. Until you have been through the training you have no reson to contadict me. That was a very good landing but pilots do that every day. and they rely on the airplane to hold up. if that srut gave way it would have the airplanes falt not the pilots. all they did was land the plane nothing more nothing less.
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I just thought SHE did a great job putting that big b**** right on the line 
she did. but when you arelanding a 200 ton plane you have to get it right on that center line ore you will go off the runway. You can't steer thos thing until they are moving at 14mph.fkmitsu said:I just thought SHE did a great job putting that big b**** right on the line
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It is my understanding that the landing gear on this particular Airbus plane (as well as others) are designed to fail in this position when the computer that controls the steering fails. The reason is to provide greater ability to steer the plane in a straight line when landing. For instance, if the steering computer (basically a fly by wire, no pun) failed and held the forward wheels at, say, 45 degrees (or even a few degrees from 0), imagine how hard it would be to keep the plane in a strait line when the nose touches down.
For those who have autocrossed or raced in any direction other than a straight line, I'm sure you've experienced a similar phenomina. It's called severe understeer (AKA "push"). For example, when you go into that corner a little to hot and the car doesn't want to turn even though you have the wheel turned, the tires just scrub. The more steering input you give the car, the worse the 'push' gets and you continue to go in a straight line.
Kudos to the pilots for doing a great job!
For those who have autocrossed or raced in any direction other than a straight line, I'm sure you've experienced a similar phenomina. It's called severe understeer (AKA "push"). For example, when you go into that corner a little to hot and the car doesn't want to turn even though you have the wheel turned, the tires just scrub. The more steering input you give the car, the worse the 'push' gets and you continue to go in a straight line.
Kudos to the pilots for doing a great job!
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kbichw- youre partially right. The A320 is fly by wire, BUT only on flight surfaces (rudder, lifters, flaps, steering, etc...). Landing gear is a mechanical surface, and is still controlled by good ole' hydraulics. The problem that the nose gear encountered is unusual, but in the two previous cases, the cause was lack of maintenance on the hydrolic seals. While technically Airbus doesnt design their planes to fall into a 90 degree wheel position on malfunction, it will happen 100% of the time in failures. The reasoning is because the steering surface is a 180 degree range, thus the most it can rotate is 90 both ways...
As for the way it would have turned out if the gear was stuck at an odd angle, say 45 degreees, you are definitely right, BUT the excessive oversteer forces can be overcome by using imbalanced thrust of the engines. Basically, imagine going into an oversteer situation in a car, but being able to control both L and R sides independently with 800hp engines respectively. The forces needed to overcome oversteer and continue (semi) straight would be there, just be a bit more difficult to control. We practiced this in flight SIM's regularly in training.
As for the way it would have turned out if the gear was stuck at an odd angle, say 45 degreees, you are definitely right, BUT the excessive oversteer forces can be overcome by using imbalanced thrust of the engines. Basically, imagine going into an oversteer situation in a car, but being able to control both L and R sides independently with 800hp engines respectively. The forces needed to overcome oversteer and continue (semi) straight would be there, just be a bit more difficult to control. We practiced this in flight SIM's regularly in training.
