Ive got an High pitched blowing wind sound coming from the car since yesterday...

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Sound like its the turbo...like you can really hear the turbine now it seem and its making alot of sound...espiecially at high speed. Its a high pitced wind sound

My turbo smoked twice and now that...could my turbo be done?
Im under warranty still so im calling my dealer tomorrow but still wanted to know if that ever happened to you guy?

What do you guys think it is?
 
Does the high pitched noise sound like a dentist drill, or a far-away police siren? That might indicate it's blown. This was the sound that people would get in the previous Audi I owned, typically due to (1) oil starvation due to kinked oil line, or (2) overboosting due to leaks, or (3) having a chip that was too aggressive with boost.

Do you have a boost gauge? Might be useful if you have a leak in the plumbing somewhere...
 
Does the high pitched noise sound like a dentist drill, or a far-away police siren? That might indicate it's blown. This was the sound that people would get in the previous Audi I owned, typically due to (1) oil starvation due to kinked oil line, or (2) overboosting due to leaks, or (3) having a chip that was too aggressive with boost.

Do you have a boost gauge? Might be useful if you have a leak in the plumbing somewhere...

Yeah like a far away police siren when im slowing down but it pretty much always did that since ive gotten it...or yeah the dentist drill is a good comparaison aswell for what its doing right now. I can hear the turbo really good now, couldnt before. Yesterday it was pretty loud, today it was there and its a clear difference from normal but not as loud as yesterday

The car doesnt feel as powerfull either but dont take that for a fact

No mod at all on the car. You guy thing my turbo is blown? If it is I guess they will just have to put a new one in...anyway it already smoked twice but It just doesnt smoke all the time so we will see.

I dont have a boost gauge...is it easy for the dealer to find a boost leak if its that? If not, does changing the turbo remove any boost leak?
 
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A number of things could cause the turbo to suddenly seem louder. None of them are good, or even harmless. If you don't know enough about the engine to do any self-diagnosis, I would seriously get in to your dealer A.S.A.P. since you are under warranty & un-modded. Don't even bother to make an appointment- just show up first thing in the morning & be prepared to arrange alternate transportation for the day.
 
If you are about to replace your third turbo I would analyze your driving style and what you are doing to the car. I wouldnt blame the car. Learn how a turbo car works and use it accordingly. There are people with high mileage that have NEVER replaced a turbo. Sorry to be harsh but you need to educate yourself on what a turbo car needs. And yeah get it to the dealer (one more time).
 
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If you are about to replace your third turbo I would analyze your driving style and what you are doing to the car. I wouldnt blame the car. Learn how a turbo car works and use it accordingly. There are people with high mileage that have NEVER replaced a turbo. Sorry to be harsh but you need to educate yourself on what a turbo car needs. And yeah get it to the dealer (one more time).

He DIDNT replace a turbo twice. He stated it smoked twice. BIG difference. He is learning how a turbo car works i presume, hes not self-diagnosing and coming up with crap, he's asking questions to understand why. And there are also people who have had LOW mileage on their cars and had smoking and blowing turbos. Even blown motors. Its a car, things happen. This is a forum, people ask questions to get informed.

Anywho, OP, get it to your dealer. If your mod free it cant hurt to have them take a look at it. Either that or check hoses and connections. I know when I replaced my spark plugs I didnt tighten down a coupler on the TMIC and it was whistling like crazy. Sometimes things just come loose. This car is known to have some nuts and bolts not tightened down all the way or just work themselves free. Like the clamp on the inlet, turbo side, is very loose.

Either way, dealership is your best bet. Its warrantied and doesnt hurt. Also good to make nicey nice with the service department. Good luck!!
 
If you are about to replace your third turbo I would analyze your driving style and what you are doing to the car. I wouldnt blame the car. Learn how a turbo car works and use it accordingly. There are people with high mileage that have NEVER replaced a turbo. Sorry to be harsh but you need to educate yourself on what a turbo car needs. And yeah get it to the dealer (one more time).

Like the other guy said i never replace my turbo...what does a turbo car need btw? ID like to know...

I called the dealer, they are gonna have a look at it next monday...its was the sooner they could check it out they told me.

Its only doing it when im spooling it so im gonna be driving slow.
 
Do you have any other SPEED dealers in your area? I know around me that I have 3 within a 25 minute drive. You could always call another service department even if you didnt buy it there. Just make sure that they sell Speeds. This way you don't have to take a risk by holding out another week if something serious is wrong.
 
Like the other guy said i never replace my turbo...what does a turbo car need btw? ID like to know...

I called the dealer, they are gonna have a look at it next monday...its was the sooner they could check it out they told me.

Its only doing it when im spooling it so im gonna be driving slow.

i'd say a turbo car needs to warm up on first start and cool down on shut down.....start your car and let it run for a minute or so, and when you're parking somewhere, let it run for a minute or so also before turning it off.....
 
Does the noise vary with engine RPM? When you're going 55 or 60, push the clutch in and let the engine go back to idle, does the noise decrease?
 
Do you have any other SPEED dealers in your area? I know around me that I have 3 within a 25 minute drive. You could always call another service department even if you didnt buy it there. Just make sure that they sell Speeds. This way you don't have to take a risk by holding out another week if something serious is wrong.

They sell speed where i bought it....
 
Does the noise vary with engine RPM? When you're going 55 or 60, push the clutch in and let the engine go back to idle, does the noise decrease?

no its doesnt at idle...seem to vary in fonction of how long i stay in boost.

Accalerating in Fifth gear seem to be where it doesnt the most, at about 4500rpm
 
They sell speed where i bought it....

Are there any other Mazda dealers in your area though? Im just saying instead of waiting until next monday to get your car in, call another Mazda dealership and see if they can get you in sooner.
 
Are there any other Mazda dealers in your area though? Im just saying instead of waiting until next monday to get your car in, call another Mazda dealership and see if they can get you in sooner.

yeah the next mazda dealer is at 1 hours drive...and I bought my car at the dealer im going now and know the 2 service guys so i prefer to go there.
 
He DIDNT replace a turbo twice. He stated it smoked twice. BIG difference. He is learning how a turbo car works i presume, hes not self-diagnosing and coming up with crap, he's asking questions to understand why. And there are also people who have had LOW mileage on their cars and had smoking and blowing turbos. Even blown motors. Its a car, things happen. This is a forum, people ask questions to get informed.

Anywho, OP, get it to your dealer. If your mod free it cant hurt to have them take a look at it. Either that or check hoses and connections. I know when I replaced my spark plugs I didnt tighten down a coupler on the TMIC and it was whistling like crazy. Sometimes things just come loose. This car is known to have some nuts and bolts not tightened down all the way or just work themselves free. Like the clamp on the inlet, turbo side, is very loose.

Either way, dealership is your best bet. Its warrantied and doesnt hurt. Also good to make nicey nice with the service department. Good luck!!

Your right and I apologize to the OP. I misread the post. You need to make sure you are not asking for high boost in 6th gear. Keep revs high (downshift) when asking for high boost from the engine.
 
Your right and I apologize to the OP. I misread the post. You need to make sure you are not asking for high boost in 6th gear. Keep revs high (downshift) when asking for high boost from the engine.

i always downshift to get better power but why not woot it in 6th gear?
 
i always downshift to get better power but why not woot it in 6th gear?

Engine will be lugging at that point...meaning it will be turning at a low rpm. If you add high boost with engine at low rpm you have the possibility of damaging things. Look at the engine as an air pump. If you try to force the pump to turn fast while its driving an overdrive gear it cant move fast enough thus putting strain on the valves,etc. This has more to do with damaging the block than the turbo. Its tempting to just hit the boost in 6th when your behind a slow driver for a pass but you can hear the tone of the engine immediately change to a straining growl reminding you to downshift.

BTW in regards to the smoking turbo I have been using shell rotella T 5W-40 for a while now with good results. I was a little nervous at first using a viscosity that was not in the manual but Mazda has now approved it if your turbo smokes so I feel a bit better.
 
For the O.P., as to "what a turbo car needs," I would suggest the following. Keep in mind that while your engine runs at no more than 7,000 RPM's, a spooling turbo can turn at 30,000, 50,000, 80,000, and in some cases, over 100,000 RPM. (Not saying our K04 spins that fast, but some turbos do) The tolerances (clearance between metal surfaces) in the turbo are VERY tight, very precise, like a fine Swiss watch. Spin those parts at tens of thousands of RPM's, it doesn't take much strain or wear to ruin those tight tolerances. As those tightly fitted parts wear down & the spaces between them increase, the turbo becomes less efficient- oil passes thru places it's not supposed to go, causing smoke, and the impeller becomes less efficient, which causes loss of boost pressure.

1. ALL cars should be allowed to idle for at least 15-20 seconds when you start up to allow the oil pump to get oil to the top of the engine- the valve train, cams, etc. This is especially important in a turbo, as the turbo also needs that oil desperately. If you start it up & take off right away, you are putting more strain on the metal parts until the oil reaches them. For most people, the greatest damage they do to their car is at start-up, when they turn the key & go without letting the oil pump do its job first. I suggest making a habit of starting the car BEFORE you put on your seat belt, tune the radio, put your cell phone & other belongings away, etc. So that way, you can use those other tasks to distract you while the engine idles & the oil gets flowing.

1a. Even after your 15, 20, or 30 seconds of idle to let the oil pump get to work, don't take off like Speed Racer. Basically, stay out of boost until the engine reaches operating temperature, so the oil is flowing freely. Cold oil moves slowly. Let it warm up before you put any noticeable strain on the motor.

2. Cooldown. As noted before, turbocharged cars benefit greatly from a cooldown, especially after hard driving. 30-60 seconds idling in the driveway is enough most of the time. For me, when I am heading home, the 20mph, low-RPM cruise thru my neighborhood is usually sufficient cooldown. But when I am pulling into work, a shopping center, etc., I make sure to let it idle for a short while before shutting it off.

3. Oil changes. You will hear endless debate about what type (dino, synth blend, full synth) to use, what weight to use, etc. and how often to change it. OIl changes are, of course, the single most important maintenance item on any car, but again- the turbo is a fragile piece of equipment and fresh oil helps keep it in top shape. Me, I go for full synthetic 5w30 every 3500-4500 miles. But that's just me.

4. CLEAN or REPLACE your air filter often. A dirty air filter is another item that should be taken care of on all cars, but here again- the turbo benefits greatly from a clean, free-flowing air filter. If stock, replace that sucker frequently. Check it at LEAST with every oil change, and if in doubt, replace it. Cheap insurance. If you ever go aftermarket, be sure to inspect & clean any re-usable filter you may end up with frequently so the turbo can breathe easily. Dirty, clogged filters make the turbo work harder, causing premature wear.

Anyone want to add to the list? I'm at work & somewhat distracted right now...

And one more way to think of why you should downshift from 6th gear to accelerate--- think of it like riding a 10-speed bicycle. You're cruising along & decide you need to speed up pronto. It's much easier to speed up if you downshift from 10th gear to, say 8th, because the gear ratio is much more favorable- your legs have to pedal faster, but the effort isn't as great. If you try to speed up while still in 10th gear, it takes longer to get moving and you work REALLY hard to do it. Your calves may ache afterwards, too. Same with your car. And when your car has to work hard like that, engine parts are subjected to unnecessary strain, which can lead to metal fatigue & breakage/failure of parts like rods & bearings, which ain't cheap to fix or replace.
 
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