it's offical

[bazooka joe]

just read this months automobile mag and it had a nice write up on the mazda 3. it also said, that the 3 engine had "untapped" potential and a mazdaspeed 3 is in the works. that will be my next car!!! i'm hoping mazda/ford tap into this potential and give us some real ponies!!

 

[Newf]

yup, I already told my dealer, if they come out with a Mazdaspeed 3....start trying to sell my speed

 

[bazooka joe]

ya newf, i'm with ya. i figure by time they come out with the speed version my 5 will be looking @ 100,000 plus miles and i'll be ready!!

 

[scott42]

Newf, you're a new car ADDICT! Wow! (wow)

 

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

yup, I already told my dealer, if they come out with a Mazdaspeed 3....start trying to sell my speed

correction tell them to start trying to sell my mp3 and i'll buy your speed. (and paint it laser blue of course )

 

[Jhova1012]

=P I'll buy the MP3

 

[oliver2000]

Well a mazdaspeed 3 hmmm...maybe 2006...

The next one is the Miata 2004 and has been officially anounced..given the lackluster sales of the MSP I think they would wait a while before doing this...

The one I would want would be a Mazdaspeed RX-8 in red.....now that would be a sweet ride... they do that and we will have a MP3,MSP and the RX-8 in the driveway

 

[bazooka joe]

2006, can i wait that long??? i guess i'll turbo the mp5, ya that's the ticket!

 

[boostisgood]

There is no mazdaspeed vehicles slated for release in NA after the Mazdaspeed Miata. From Kelvin Hiriashi (lead Mazdaspeed engineer of NA) Sorry bro. No M3speed.

 

[1sty]

Well, no other mazdaspeeds spoken of yet.
However since the SVT focus is rumored to be gonzo, then the MS3 is very possible.

 

[boostisgood]

Craig,,

This info is straight from the lead guy for Mazdaspeed at SEMA. I doubt any company would be telling lies at the SEMA convention. Deal with it people, the NA Mazdaspeed concepts are gone. "After the MS Miate, there are no more Mazdaspeed vehicles slated to be developed or released in North America." Those were the direct words to me. I have posted this in several threads, guess I gotta get that sticked somewheres.

 

[1sty]

I'm not saying he's lying. Or that one is in any way being developed. I am saying based on market response and the possible removal of the SVT focus that it is a likly scenerio to be played out in the future.

 

[bazooka joe]

i agree craig. i forget the guys name who was quoted in the mag, but i thought he was a mazda offical, i could be wrong. it sounded promising anyway!

 

[70]

See, all the press says different.

Ford is pulling out of the SVT market until 2006. Because of the Mazdaspeed program in North America, and becuase of the Mopar program. Plus Ford is going to have a few redesigns soon and would rather hold off on development of SVT cars.

Mazda is still planning on releasing a Mazdaspeed6 and a Mazdapseed3 after the Miata.

Why would the guy say that at SEMA? Who knows? To keep everyone guessing?

I'll wait and see...I've learned not to really belive what the "official word" from the head hancho of Mazdaspeed is.

Look at the MSP. Mazda denied up until the release that there was going to be one. The "rumors" were circulating that there was going to be one about one year before it was released.

I'll stick to my "reliable sources" before I believe the "official word" from Mazda...

 

[bazooka joe]

according to jean jennings, of automobile magazine, "a mazdaspeed version is in the pipeline" who knows how long the pipe is???

 

[StarvingRussian]

the 3 engine had "untapped" potential

hopefully someone will tap (upbum) that potential.

 

[vodapas77]

Craig,,

This info is straight from the lead guy for Mazdaspeed at SEMA. I doubt any company would be telling lies at the SEMA convention. Deal with it people, the NA Mazdaspeed concepts are gone. "After the MS Miate, there are no more Mazdaspeed vehicles slated to be developed or released in North America." Those were the direct words to me. I have posted this in several threads, guess I gotta get that sticked somewheres.

Turn the clock back to 1988. The Ford big whigs and engineers said the Mustang as we know it will cease production. In it's place will be a sporty 2 door FWD 4 cyl. with a Turbo for high end models. But wouldn't you know it market analysis changed as the market does and the Mustang stayed on in the Fox bodied version until 1993 and then rode the same chassis as the SN95 right up until today and won't be replace until next year. Oh and for those of you who don't know. Guess what became of the purposed FWD Mustang? You might know it better as the Ford Probe. There are even pics with a probe with the running pony emblem on it's hood.

Point is there are more examples than can be counted of a car manufacturer saying one thing and doing another thing. Yes, sometimes it's an attempt to fool the press, but usually it boils down to the fact that the car market is volatile and mistakes cost millions of dollars and can result in loss of customer loyalty. Car companies have learned not to make promises they can't keep. I would bet a shiny nickel that Mazda is watching Mitsubishi and Subaru right now to see if the specialty factory tuner cars like the Evo and Sti will remain big sellers or fold after only a few years before they make any official plans to try and sell another "hot-rod" four door in the US. That's my two cents and a shiny nickel if I'm wrong.

 

[boostisgood]

Point blank, the MAzdaspeed concept in the NA FAILED. Yes, many of us bought it, but I still see Black Micas sitting on lots, with Yellows, blues and titaniums. The car did not sell as they thought it would. Mazda delivered a great car, but the "superstreet" enthusiast wants power, not a complete package. Thus, Mazda delivered a car that "TRUe DRIVING" enthusiasts can enjoy, but the mass market dont want.

You all can think what you want, and believe what you read. I have learned to take what is said at an official event like SEMA. (which happens to be the largest Aftermarket convention in the world, and the car MFRs roll out thier concepts, and release info on future products.)

The Miata was in the works, when the Pro was released. Mazda was not going to waste the R&D money spent on it, by not releasing it.

You all can believe what you read, and what you think. Ill stick to what was said to me by a reliable representative of the MAzdaspeed team, at a reliable, and reputable industry event.

I refuse to argue this anymore, and am not rying to piss anyone off, just saying. Dont get your hopes up.

 

[vodapas77]

You are more than entitled to your opinion. I am not arguing with you. I'm stating mine based on what has happened with every car company in the past.

I wish you would quit stating what you have heard as though it is a fact. You have the quote of one man. It is a very reliable source. I do not argue that you might very well be proven correct. What I don't accept is you telling others not to post what they have heard and discussing what Mazda might do in the future and what they think they should do. For all any of us know, Mr. Hiriashi might not even be working there in the coming years. J. Mays caused quite a stir when he abruptly left VW to go to a higher position at Ford. It happens.

Car companies are more fickle than women. (No offense ladies.) They change their minds, plans, logos, CEOs, Presidents, etc. as quickly as any other company. This is a fact.

So, if people want to post what they have heard from whatever magazine or source, or if they just want to talk about future MazdaSpeed products because they get all warm and fuzzy than so be it. Think what you think about them and move on to the next thread.

Tell you what, remember my user name. I promise you I'll be on here in three years, probably longer if the site is still around. I'll remember yours. If no more MazdaSpeed cars are released in the US after the Miata you pm me, post on me, flame me all you want about how right you were and how wrong I was. If the MS6, MS3 or MS RX-8 is released in NA I will be sending you a PM simply saying "My the car market is volatile now-a-days isn't it?" Sound good?

Oh and in reference to this surplus of MSPs sitting around, welcome to the end of the sales year. Go see how many other types 2003s are sitting around on the lot getting there prices cut to make room for new models. Especially those that are being replaced with another type of car. I wonder how many 626s, Altimas, and Maximas got sold for a song after the ads for there replacements were released. I have yet to meet a car salesman who refers to the Speed as a bad seller. In this area we have one lonely silver sitting on the lot. Yes, it is Hawaii, but we also have a disproportionate amount of Speeds running around on the roads out here.

 

[1sty]

Point blank, the MAzdaspeed concept in the NA FAILED. Yes, many of us bought it, but I still see Black Micas sitting on lots, with Yellows, blues and titaniums. The car did not sell as they thought it would. Mazda delivered a great car, but the "superstreet" enthusiast wants power, not a complete package. Thus, Mazda delivered a car that "TRUe DRIVING" enthusiasts can enjoy, but the mass market dont want.

You all can think what you want, and believe what you read. I have learned to take what is said at an official event like SEMA. (which happens to be the largest Aftermarket convention in the world, and the car MFRs roll out thier concepts, and release info on future products.)

The Miata was in the works, when the Pro was released. Mazda was not going to waste the R&D money spent on it, by not releasing it.

You all can believe what you read, and what you think. Ill stick to what was said to me by a reliable representative of the MAzdaspeed team, at a reliable, and reputable industry event.

I refuse to argue this anymore, and am not rying to piss anyone off, just saying. Dont get your hopes up.

The mazdaspeed protege was a failure, but not the mazdaspeed program in general. If it were, then they would not be making a MS miata.

The Mazdaspeed protege was a **** up plain and simple. They came to the market with too little power to be compeditive for the asking price, it continued all the known issues with the MP3 (A great success in its time), it suffered form a horribly tuned ECU causing the hesitation even the fix is failing, and it had multiple reliability issues with the coolant lines. All in all, what hurt the MSP was mazdas poor designs and execution.

The NA market wants mazdaspeed, just not ones that are only as powerful as the regular edition cars of compeditors and that suffer from perfomance and reliability issue.