ION Intake Dynos 24 whp over stock at 4750RPMs

[jaymode]

hey azian6er is there any possible way that you can scan it? They stopped selling turbo magazine around here. I saw the first one with the msp in it at wal mart but never saw another one anywhere again. I looked at walmart, barnes and noble, and a lot of other places.

 

[pluto316]

K&N FILTER FOR LIFE!!

 

[BinaryRotary]

intake + fmic

if you say they got 8 from the fmic 24 - 8 = 16 from the intake

You cant do it like that. The sum of all the parts is going to make more power than just one piece. Everything has to work in unison.

 

[skilletrx]

can anyone compare this to AEM's new CAI dyno... its jus confusing for a newbie cause i dunno if its biased or not. I mean i guess the best way to find out is to buy both and dyno them urself, but who has that kinda money any opinions welcome..

sory for thread jack

 

[azian6er]

i didnt buy the mag. I will go back and see if they have any more however.

-B

 

[03MSPRO]

has anyone compared the 2 dynos yet? On the 1st dyno they have a plot for after the FMIC install. Compare that line from THAT issue against the new dyno from the latest magazine. The new lines represent the gains after the CAI AND FMIC, but if you overlay the 1st and 2nd dynos, there is not a 24 whp. It might be because of different weather conditions, but just something to look at.

 

[Larone]

I have the magazine as well. At 4750rpm with the FMIC only installed, the car's whp output was 24whp less than when they ran the car with the FMIC and the CAI. What azian6er is trying to say isn't that hard to understand at all.

 

[uclap5]

Just take a look in the new turbo Mag! I was quite shocked. Peak HP that was gained was between 5-6 whp but the most gained was 24whp! at 4750 rpms! This was on an unflashed car and it had an fmic.

I guess the run with the fmic yielded 159 peak HP while the new dyno with fmic and intake yielded 165 whp. I cant wait to see what the turbo back and 9 psi do. In their next article i believe they are having the car flashed by mazda too.

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You can see why i say he makes no sense.

 

[azian6er]

Just take a look in the new turbo Mag! I was quite shocked. Peak HP that was gained was between 5-6 whp but the most gained was 24whp! at 4750 rpms! This was on an unflashed car and it had an fmic.

I guess the run with the fmic yielded 159 peak HP while the new dyno with fmic and intake yielded 165 whp. I cant wait to see what the turbo back and 9 psi do. In their next article i believe they are having the car flashed by mazda too.

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You can see why i say he makes no sense.

holy s*** man. Im taking i wild shot in the dark here that you didnt do too hot on your SAT verbal.

My dear lord, i said the peak HP gain with the intake was 5-6 OVER that of the dyno run with the FMIC ONLY. So , aparently you didnt do too hot on the math either because 159 + 5-6 = 165.

i dont mean to be a prickscicle but i really dont see what is so damn confusing.

-B

 

[speedfrk]

He is comparing the gain at 4750 with and without the intake and it is showing a 24whp gain right? who cant understand this? He is not comparing peak gain , just gain at 4750.

 

[speedfrk]

aem short and long intakes should nearly the exact same gians in Hp and the short ram had slight advantage in torque almost exactly the same gains in the curve.

 

[03MSPRO]

I have the magazine as well. At 4750rpm with the FMIC only installed, the car's whp output was 24whp less than when they ran the car with the FMIC and the CAI. What azian6er is trying to say isn't that hard to understand at all.

Maybe I did not overlay the curves right, but I do understand what azian6er is saying. Maybe YOU don't understand what I am saying.

 

[AamirMSP]

I believe nothing out of a magazine. Have someone buy the intake and get it dynod at their local dyno, 24hp at any RPM range is BS.....

 

[iON Performance]

People, we had posted this a long time ago. Gains made were @ STOCK BOOST LEVELS and of the CAI ONLY (the FMIC was installed and baselined as well. The 159whp is the baseline run for the day they did the CAI install).

 

[surferzero57]

JEEZ ! I don't know crap about cars and I understand what he's talkin' about!!!! Get with the program (if your not already by now, sell your car, and get a Honda) (bicker)

 

[kevducridr]

What he is saying is that there were significant gains 24 whp in the midrange @ 4700 rpm after the addition of the CAI to the baseline settings, while the peak increased nominally 5-6 whp in the same instance. Pretty easy to understand. I haven't been able to find much in the way of Dyno charts on Short Rams.

First rule of thumb, don't believe every dyno chart you see and don't believe every magazine article you read either. Now that being said, someone go and buy one, take it to your local shop and have that mutha dyno'd for us!!!!!!

 

[itz_alan]

like i said im a noob guys! so dont get be yellin at me about how much of a dumbass i am.. but.. anyways.. whats the diff between the peak hp and max hp etc.. so this intake from ION makes 24 hp but 5-6 peak? what EXACTLY does that mean? Injen sent me a dyno of their RD 6066 CAI and it gives a max hp gain of 10 at around 5.5 rpms.. so does this mean that it actually gives 10 whp? also, Ion emailed me saying that they've seen 30 whp gains w/ their turboback at stock boost.. does this mean that my car will get 30 whp? is this max or peak??? im so confused!?!?! somebody plz explain? plzz

 

[iON Performance]

itz_alan - Parts that we design for street use give specific characteristics. Our CAI was designed to broaden the power curve, hence you see the nice bump in the hp and torque.

"peak" means @ peak RPM. Maximum power gain was 24whp @ 4750rpm which is less then peak. At peak RPM the intake cam of the MSP can't keep up with the amount of air that's available, hence peak values are lower.

When reading a dyno, you want to make sure that it was done on the same car, under the same or at least as similar as possible conditions. YOu want to look at the absolute difference. This will give you your gains.

In-house testing has shown on our various cars we used for R&D ~30whp maximum gain @ stock boost levels with our true full turbo-back system. It also broadened the hp & torque curves substantially and eliminated any sort of turbo lag.

 

[mp5jeff]

iON Performance

does your intake change the a/f ratio at all, i would like to see the dynos myself anyone have a link..

 

[iON Performance]

Dyno Runs (Results from Turbo Magazine's testing on their Project MSP *THIS CAR IS UNFLASHED*)
*Note the baseline runs made were of the stock car running our stage 1 FMIC, so gains are on top of the gains from just the FMIC alone*
Shown here in Red is the best baseline run, all the other runs are the runs made after the CAI install. Notice how much power is gained all the way up to the peak power figure around 5700rpm. This is where the cams can't keep up.

mp5jeff - A/F's have shifted slightly.