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[Glowmunkey]

but after seeing the rediculous amount of time it was taking to get people thier parts I changed my mind. Is it better than the CS I have? Without a doubt. But customer service is paramount.

I'm in the same boat here... I'd prefer the iON turbo back, but Corksport accomplished something that no one else could seem to handle at the time - they sent the parts to me. An actual, real part... and there was a slight blip with my customer service (no delays in delivery), so they sent me a free SS clutch line. That's what it takes to win me over - send me the parts I pay for, and if something happens, beyond your control or otherwise, try to make it up to me.

Am I THAT unreasonable?

 

[Delivery_Guy]

Ion - I'm sorry chief, but I took pictures, figures, and reviews to a guy at a muffler shop who said 750$ for the exact same thing, AND a highflow cat, that's including install. Don't BS and say it costs that much for you to make it because you make it in bulk, and this would be a custom job from scratch modeled off of your design. Bubble Wrap, Pff! Come out of the closet.

If you think that they would even be able to make you that cast S pipe for $750 you're smoking something.

For me the only issue anyone should bring up is the wait times. If you don't want to pay for quality, then don't. If it isn't worth it to you or you can get an exhaust custom made for $150, then do your own thing. Anyway, just my opinion. If you think it's too expensive, then don't buy it. But give me a break, you really have to flame on them...[sarcasm]let's see if we can get every company willing to make parts for us to tell us to piss off.[/sarcasm]

 

[StreakinOraNgeX]

If you think that they would even be able to make you that cast S pipe for $750 you're smoking something.

For me the only issue anyone should bring up is the wait times. If you don't want to pay for quality, then don't. If it isn't worth it to you or you can get an exhaust custom made for $150, then do your own thing. Anyway, just my opinion. If you think it's too expensive, then don't buy it. But give me a break, you really have to flame on them...[sarcasm]let's see if we can get every company willing to make parts for us to tell us to piss off.[/sarcasm]

wait are you saying that a custom cast s pipe will cost more then 750 dollars?

 

[dominoy2k1]

dude there is a line between quality and ass raping. any shop can do quality work. also it not like its hard to make a 3inch turboback or any size for that matter.

 

[dominoy2k1]

whats the point of having vendors if they sell s*** so expensive? doesnt make any sense.

 

[jurgs01]

dude there is a line between quality and ass raping. any shop can do quality work. also it not like its hard to make a 3inch turboback or any size for that matter.

I would buy from ION even if their parts are overpriced, but the wait is the main thing I couldn't do. I think Perrin and ********** will come out with a DP that is just as good, and it will be reasonably priced and you won't have to wait.

 

[MP3skaterNC]

perrin will be expensive too guys.

Quality cost money, pretty simple, thats the main reason why we haven't brought alot of higher end products into the market.

 

[jrodhotrod]

Seriously guys, MP3skaterNC is right. Everyone knows Perrin makes the good stuff just like ION does, and their "J-Pipe" back system, is $949. This doesn't include the work of art that the ION s-pipe replacement is.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79663&highlight=perrin

Sounds like ION's pricing for the best exhaust system that you can buy for this car is reasonable. You want the good stuff you gotta pay for it.

Yes the wait times are long with ION, but everyone gets their products. I am getting tired of seeing threads like this that constantly bash a vendor making quality products for our car.

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

Jaime's got it right..Quality costs money.. ION has the mantra, top dollar products, top dollar quality..which is great. Their stuff looks amazing...but there is a missing part of it..you have to get the products to the customer in a similar manner.

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

But, you CAN get a decent turbo back made for under 500$ at any good exhaust shop..Especially in metro areas..My buddy had his GSX's turbo-back made for 300$ in queens..obviously not stainless piping and mandrel bending..but it didn't cost a grand..

 

[FSDET]

i think the iON turboback should be 1100 shipped anywhere in US and Canada in a month at most, and the FMIC should be 900 shipped again no more then a month wait.
If iON does this and makes a simple website that takes 30 minutes to make on microsoft publisher ect.. everyone will love them!!

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

Quality, Performance, Affordability.

Pick TWO.

 

[EvilMSP]

i think the iON turboback should be 1100 shipped anywhere in US and Canada in a month at most, and the FMIC should be 900 shipped again no more then a month wait.
If iON does this and makes a simple website that takes 30 minutes to make on microsoft publisher ect.. everyone will love them!!

That is how I feel too.

 

[noclue119]

Quality, Performance, Affordability.

Pick TWO.

Dude its quality, money, function. Pick any two... It's told to every engineer at the first day of college. But its often not realized until the day they step into their first day of work...

Anyways.. I'd buy a Ion Exhuast if they wait was not 3 month also... Hey ION this for you when u have an extra 3 inch turbo back exhaust sitting around, let me know... I got the money on hand and i can get it to you in 2 secs flat with paypal...

 

[tekkie]

Totally agree with you, ION is pricy but the products are great. If they actually had it in stock and everyone did not need to go through all of these BS excuses they would sell a ton more of their products.

I am in the same boat as you, I would pay if it was going to be a couple of weeks but i dont want to wait months and months for an exhaust.

Dude its quality, money, function. Pick any two...

Anyways.. I'd buy a Ion Exhuast if they wait was not 3 month also... Hey ION this for you when u have an extra 3 inch turbo back exhaust sitting around, let me know... I got the money on hand and i can get it to you in 2 secs flat with paypal...

 

[Spooled]

I think iON should look into getting someone else to handle the shipping. There are a lot of companies (like UPS) that handle that type of thing. Yeah, it may cost them money, but think about all the extra exhausts they could sell if they could actually get them out in a reasonable amount of time. Any business owner should know that bubble-wrap isn't an acceptable excuse to the consumer.

 

[Ehawley]

I have the ION FMIC and 3" Turbo Back Exhaust. The wait sucked but the quality rocks. If I wanted to get aftermarket parts the next day, I would be driving a civic! I drive an MSP. I realize there is a much smaller market and companies which decide to risk their bottom line dishing out R&D costs for a limited production car are not likely to risk it further by carrying a large inventory.

Last I checked we lived in a free market economy, which makes all this debate rather silly. If you can get it sooner, cheaper, somewhere else, do it. Or you could always take the dive, design and produce a product yourself and cash in on this supposed untapped market of impatient owners with disposable income.

Would I purchase ION products again, even with the wait...You bet. When I spend money on something I try to get the best I can for the money I spend.

 

[michiganspeed]

I have the ION FMIC and 3" Turbo Back Exhaust. The wait sucked but the quality rocks. If I wanted to get aftermarket parts the next day, I would be driving a civic! I drive an MSP. I realize there is a much smaller market and companies which decide to risk their bottom line dishing out R&D costs for a limited production car are not likely to risk it further by carrying a large inventory.

Last I checked we lived in a free market economy, which makes all this debate rather silly. If you can get it sooner, cheaper, somewhere else, do it. Or you could always take the dive, design and produce a product yourself and cash in on this supposed untapped market of impatient owners with disposable income.

Would I purchase ION products again, even with the wait...You bet. When I spend money on something I try to get the best I can for the money I spend.

What he said!

 

[noclue119]

If I wanted to get aftermarket parts the next day, I would be driving a civic! I drive an MSP.

If you want aftermarket part the next day, i'd be considered a smart consumer... Here is how i think:

I can claim I got a 4 inch exhaust kit for you. It going to cost $2000, and it make 100+ hp... I'll give you a dyno graph which i made in photoshop and i'll provide photos of it too(photoshopped as well)... Then i tell you to wait 6 month after you paid... As soon as You pay, I disappear. what do u do now? you are out 2k and no product...

Granted ION is not a reflection of this from what I read, still its a trust issue in most people's minds.

 

[FSDET]

no clue u really r clueless haha