i'm getting a truck... a big one

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2010 Subaru Legacy GT
ok well, life without a truck blows like none other. so i've decided to get a truck, a big truck. i'm looking at the F250 crew cab with the PowerStroke turbo diesel 4x4. i'm looking for more ideas on what other trucks to actually look at. my criteria: 1. MUST BE 4x4 2. MUST BE DIESEL 3. MUST BE CREW CAB 4. MUST NOT HAVE LEATHER INTERIOR. this truck will have NO towing duties... i don't have a trailer or 5th wheel. pretty simple i guess... the only other company i looked at was chevy. although i REALLY REALLY want a diesel, that silverado with the hybrid V8 did catch my eye.
 
well, mostly going to the mountains and the occasional hauling of stuff. actually, i wasn't planning on getting a big truck. BUT my persistance and preferance of a diesel constituted "big truck". also, the 250 has much more cargo space and people space than a 150. necessary for snowboarding/downhill biking.
 
Those things are monster. I think i'm too small for that stuff. Although i really liked the Chevy Silverado HD edition. Those were nice, my uncle has one, lifted, with swampers......MONSTER TRUCK almost.
 
Hey!! Trucks are dumb! If you don't think so; ask Lisakay! (hippy)

(rofl)
 
Nothing you mentioned would make a truck neccessary.

"mostly going to the mountains" umm huh?
"occasional hauling of stuff" - Get a trailer.
 
II-Savy said:
Nothing you mentioned would make a truck neccessary.

"mostly going to the mountains" umm huh?
"occasional hauling of stuff" - Get a trailer.
lol...Do you have a trailer dealership?
 
+ friction said:
lol...Do you have a trailer dealership?
TRUCKS SUCK!!! BUY A TRAILER!!!!!(rockon) (rockon)
This country has far too many trucks and far to few trailers.

I want to start a web site for trailer moding.
 
Get the hybrid. I test drove it, it's a ******* beast. The torque on electric engines FAR outstrips the torque from combustion engines.
 
who cares why he wants one, he wants onereferring to why he wants a truck)...mmkay?:D. check out the Dodge 2005 RAM 2500 ST QUAD CAB(R) 4X4 SWB..it looks nice, and has a Cummins Diesel Option...
 
I never thought i'd say this.. but a friend of mine got a nissan Titan.. and its AWESOME. It's just about the nicest truck i've ever been in. (and i'm from Mississippi so thats saying a lot)
 
I just went last week on a diesel truck test drive expedition with a buddy. We drove similar trucks from Dodge, Chevy, and Ford. Each was a diesel automatic 4x4 crew cab. The Dodge and Ford were both single rear wheel models, while the chevy was a duel wheel 3500 since they didn't have any other diesels in stock. For your purposes, I'd recommend the Chevy. I've also driven other trucks from these 3 companies at work, since we make drivetrain components for all 3, and a bunch of others. Here's the breakdown as I observed:

Engine/Transmission: The Ford wins hands down. The ability to rev as high as it does, combined with ass-kicking torque is amazing. The Chevy is an incredibly close second (nearly identical, but the Ford just felt goooooood), while the Dodge was a distant third. I know I'll get a lot of s*** from you cummins-humpers, but for his purposes and my purposes, who needs a semi engine in their truck? It might have the highest torque, but it's all in an incredibly narrow range. If you have a 20 speed transmission, you can pull a house off it's foundation and run it up to 80 mph down the highway. Whoopty doo. The dodge comes with an antique 4 speed automatic. If you wanted a 6 speed stick, then the cummins would be a viable solution, but most people do not want a stick shift massive truck. The Chevy and Ford both have 5 speed automatics, and feel nearly identical. My company makes the torque converter for the Allison automatic in the Chevy, and I can tell you it's easily the best transmission of the group if not the best of all time. We also make parts for the Dodges and Fords, so I'm not really biased here. Anyway, Ford wins while Chevy is very close behind. If Dodge would put a 7 speed automatic behind the cummins, I would have no problems recommending it. Even with a 6 speed, which I've also driven, the narrow torque band really kills the drivability of the truck.

Ride/Handling: The Chevy wins this category with flying colors. I've driven several 2500s and a 3500, and honestly the 3500 with the heavier springs still rides better than the Dodge or the Ford. The clear reason for this is the independant front suspension on the Chevy. The 4x4 Dodges and Fords that are 2500 level or higher all have solid front axles. This may be good for mudding or learning about the history of axles, but Chevy is the only one of the three to have moved into the 21st century here. It rides and handles much better than the other two, hands down. The new models of Dodge and Ford are nearly identical with ride, since this year Ford finally threw away their front leaf springs and went with coils. Any Ford older than 2005 rides a bit rough and a bit springy. The Dodges have had coils for a few years now. It seemed that the Ford turned sharper than the Dodge, but the Ford was a short bed model while the Dodge was a longbox. Maybe you can look up turning radius and compare the two this way if it's important to you.

Interior/amenities: The Ford and Dodge have nice interiors, but the Chevy's is a little boxy and utilitarian. I like that myself, but the guy who test drove with me liked the Ford's interior the best. It was a Lariat package however, so take that at what it's worth. The Dodge has a hard plastic dashboard, the Ford has a soft one, and the Chevy is somewhat in between. The Ford is the cushiest of all 3, the Dodge and Chevy are both a little more "truckish."

Overall: I like the Chevy, the guy I went with liked the Ford. In reality, they're pretty close. The Chevy doesn't have quite the engine, but the suspension and transmission more than make up for it in my mind. The s*** transmission in the Dodge really killed it for me, but I know dedicated Dodge boys will buy anything with a ram's head on it. I guess it just depends on what you want. If you don't have a massive trailer, then don't get the Dodge. Even if you do, get the 6 speed stick so you can actually use the engine to it's potential. I've owned a dodge truck and a chevy truck, and I drive a Mazda(Ford, sorta). I've driven Fords, Chevys, and Dodges to hell and back for work at this job and at my last 2, so I'm not really whoring myself out to my own biases. I like them all, but I love some. I can't say much about Toyota or Nissan since I haven't driven either. They don't make a diesel anyway, as far as I know. I can vouch for Toyota's quality policies however. The products we make for them are put through hell before they will accept them, wheras other companies take whatever we give them and just run with it. I assume Nissan is the same. However, if you'd be willing to forgoe the 4x4 and diesel, I'd wholeheartedy recommend the Dodge SRT-10 Ram. It's by far the best truck I've ever driven, for obvious reasons. It's really just a hell of a deal for only about 6 or 8 thousand more than a diesel. If you ever drive one, you'll never want anything else in a truck. You can even get it in a quad-cab. :D
 
thank you mach 3.5. that was beautiful. while reading reviews from various websites/magazines, you seem to be with the majority on all your views. i'm reading and talking to people about the F250. it seems that the 1999 model was the last truely GOOD year for the powerstroke. people have been having problems with the newer powerstrokes namely, 2000+ model years. most of them have engine problems. the 1999 model year owners are pretty happy about their trucks and have little to no problems with their turbo powerstrokes. someone reccommended i look into getting a used 1999. even with 100k on it, that engine is still in it's prime. also, a 1999 crew cab 4x4 runs about 23k, MUCH MUCH easier to get rather than the 04 or 05 that is 2x that price. if i were to wait for the 04 or 05, then i would have to postpone my purchase for a while. the 1999 i could pick up within the next 8 months. but regardless of time, i WILL get a diesel. that hybrid does rock tho... ****.

hmm... i haven't really tried lately, but my car can't clear a 3 foot snowbank. my buddy has a cabin in big bear and we were up there and sho nuff... there was a 3 foot snowbank in his driveway. even his 4x4 explorer couldn't clear it... we got stuck and had to dig out the truck... wasted half a day. while his neighbors f250 fx4 cleared the bank in front of his driveway... quite easily i might add. THAT is what sells me on a 250/2500 series truck. the diesel requirement is to compete with the rising fuel costs. where i get gas, diesel is 2.19 while regular is 2.22. i'de spend LESS with the truck. yeah, ok, given that the tank is like 40 gal and to fill up would be like $60, range on diesels is awesome. also, the lifespan of a diesel is EXTREMELY long. i'm gonna keep this truck.
 
I'll be getting a truck next year too. But it'll be to haul my race car (evil)
 
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