How-To Poor mans Intake

[Killer]

Your straw theory is false. Drinking through one straw vs 2 is more difficult but breathing is not. There are no additional forces involved. Now if you bend the straw into lots of hard angles you may have a point.

If the 'possible' 1-2 HP isn't important then I ask why was the first 1-2 HP gain important enough for you to spend $50?

The answer must be "because it sounds good" because that's all you really get when the intake is the only thing you change. The intercooler and turbo alone are a bigger drag on the airflow than the stock airbox. Add a high-flow turbo back exhaust and less restrictive intercooler coupled with engine management and THEN you might start to see some gains from an intake.

you do realize you are wasting your time don't you?

 

[chuyler1]

Yeah, I'm done. Ass dynos FTL.

 

[Crashes]

I guess this is what I get, for trying to help the mazda side of the car world. Thanks for makeing a great first Impression, you guys really are a great bunch of guys (jerkit). Awesome!

 

[Raynman]

I'm not going to knock on "backyard engineering" when I, personally, admire the initiative and creativity that comes with it.

By the way, this is how Protomotive Racing ducted air to their brakes for their racing 6:

I can see a couple of things that came from Home Despot in there.

 

[knowledge007]

Lamo @ chuyler... Where do you get 1-2 hp difference with a CAI. Do you have a CAI installed??? Have you checked the dyno sheets of just a CAI mod???

 

[chuyler1]

I didn't come up with it, Crashes did. CP-E's dyno shows about a 10HP gain from a CAI...but I'm guessing most of that gain is lost with a short-ram intake because all the air that passes through the intercooler and radiator is what you'll be sucking into your intake...doesn't really make much sense if you ask me.

 

[Crashes]

I didn't come up with it, Crashes did. CP-E's dyno shows about a 10HP gain from a CAI...but I'm guessing most of that gain is lost with a short-ram intake because all the air that passes through the intercooler and radiator is what you'll be sucking into your intake...doesn't really make much sense if you ask me.

I've done plenty of dyno tuning with a CAI and a WAI, and more tuning to go with it to show it doesnt make any difference. I didnt even say the '1-2' hp difference is even real. Thats what the original person to bring that up is when he said something about a WAI and a CAI.

I only made this thread so people like me can have an intake for less then 40$ bucks installed and everything. I'm not even sure though I should still post pictures or part #ers at this point though.

 

[kmh001]

For what it's worth I think your intake solution is brilliant for being both cheap and technically superior to a CAI.

I know the SRI v CAI argument has been done to death. But nothing can change the fact that actual inlet temperature data shows that when a SRI equipped car has any forward speed there is NO measurable difference in the air temp (ie density) available for combustion (ie power) compared to a CAI equipped car.

On a stationary car the SRI inlet temp is higher. But thats irrelevant because if the car is stationary it's not performing.

Although I know of no one who's done it, in my view there's no doubt that computational fluid dynamics would show the flow loss through a CAI to be higher than a SRI.

The perceived disadvantage of a SRI is just that, a perception. And a false one based on inlet air temp data.

And this argument can probably never be resolved objectively because dynos are static and you cant compare air flow devices standing still when their performance is dependent on dynamic air flow.

 

[Dragon Queen]

I Say do it right..don't be Ghetto about it like a welp or a peasent only my subjects do that. If you can afford a $23,000+ car..

 

[chriscecc914]

i give props to this guy. he saved money so whatever. Ive seen DSM's made out of home depot crap that run 11's.

BTW cold air and short ram intakes show very little difference in performance on a turbo car since the cold air gets heated up when it passes through the turbo anyways. The intercooler is what matters. And when you cold air guys suck up a puddle of water, dont complain.

 

[knowledge007]

i give props to this guy. he saved money so whatever. Ive seen DSM's made out of home depot crap that run 11's.

BTW cold air and short ram intakes show very little difference in performance on a turbo car since the cold air gets heated up when it passes through the turbo anyways. The intercooler is what matters. And when you cold air guys suck up a puddle of water, dont complain.

Wow, thats all I have to say to this post...