HOW TO: Balance Shaft delete

bs delete

I tried this but did not care for the vibrations. Tried to reinstall but still vibrates? Is there special way reinstalling this? Hate to drop pan again.
 
orlando said:
I tried this but did not care for the vibrations. Tried to reinstall but still vibrates? Is there special way reinstalling this? Hate to drop pan again.
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Well, duh. The FSM has the procedure to reinstall in the correct position. If you just stuck it back up in there you can create more problems for yourself. The BS must be timed to the crankshaft and eccentric weight positions....

Oh yeah, hope you didn't misplace or reposition the shims at each mounting pad either. They set the drive gear backlash.
 
orlando said:
I tried this but did not care for the vibrations. Tried to reinstall but still vibrates? Is there special way reinstalling this? Hate to drop pan again.
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Your best bet is to remove it again and leave it out. If you have to ask how it goes back in, you probably shouldn't be doing it yourself. Sorry in advance if that sounds condescending.
 
yaaa thats pretty gnarly.. probably all mistimed and even worse. i would say take it out. if it means that much to you have it professionally installed.
 
orlando said:
ok, now I have deleted it , what is proper procedure to reinstall? I did it twice but still I get vibrations?
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Ok, in a nutshell, you must set the crankshaft to #1 TDC, then set the balance shafts both at BDC and install it without rotating anything. Then, using a dial indicator, measure the balancer gear play for thrust and radial. If it is within specs you're good, if not, you must remove the BS, measure the current shim(s) thickness, subtract the amount out of tolerance and select the proper thickness shim part number from the list in the manual. Then order it from your dealer.

The procedure is quite easy mechanically, but requires a couple of special tools and precise measurements. You may want to get yourself a manual or pay someone to install it properly for you, or just leave it out. If you're not going to install it properly, it will be MUCH better to leave it out.
 
deleted mine in ms6 but do not like the vibrations, tried to reinstalled but acts the same. Is there proper way to install this?
 
and that is the reason why you have to consider all factors before you install or delete parts like the B/S delete, sometimes they have to be installed properly to work correctly again and that isnt always easy, i suggest having a professional install the Balance Shaft for you.
 
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You can remove it, and if you want to reinstall it you have to keep in mind the shims, and of course the right time with the rest of the engine. There should be a lock pin to hold the crank, cams, and balance shaft in place while you put the timing chain back in place.

As for the 2010 MS3 it's pretty much the exact same 2.3 DISI engine that came out in 06 with some minor updates to the design to improve durability.

I wouldn't remove since the engines aren't really balanced from the factory. If you are doing an engine build, and you get the engine blueprinted, and balanced you should be okay. Also keep in mind that if you upgrade to a more solid engine/ trans mount it'll really vibrate bad, and make the car not so much fun to drive.

If you leave the balance shaft, and upgrade mounts you'll hear more noise form the engine/ trans, and well as feel for vibrations in general. It's all really up to preferences, and if you want to keep the car comfortable to drive or make it a weekend racer pretty much.
 
KrGsMrNKusinagi said:
True but not all 4 cylinders :) do hondas have these counterweights
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Geez, the Noise/Vibration/Harshness (NVH) "engineers" think that any 4cyl larger than 2.0L needs a counterbalaner setup to reduce NVH. If there is a 4cyl honduh larger than 2.0, it will have a balance shaft....
 
Just to clear things up, the whole assembly is ~18 lbs., but the rotating portion is only a part of that. Don't be fooled. Yes, it'll take all that weight out of the motor, but its only 4-5 lbs. that is tied to the crank via helical gear to spin.

I still recommend that if you're considering this mod, you do your homework. Don't go in and half-ass the job and not know what you're getting yourself into.
 
FORZDA 1 said:
Never seen a better quote!
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Oh, I've seen a better quote:

Hey douche, I'm trying to help you here. How many responses have you had over on MSF? They aren't even taking the time to look at your logs after the first time you put up 10 or so useless logs. How many viable response did you get on that one?
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LMAO!!! J/K buddy! I think I've made some slight progress since then, no? ;)

....thought you might get a lol outta that!!
 
dougefresh_ said:
Oh, I've seen a better quote:



LMAO!!! J/K buddy! I think I've made some slight progress since then, no? ;)

....thought you might get a lol outta that!!
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LOL!!!! Yep, that was one of my "well WTF?" posts and yep, you have come a LONG way (in a short time) since then. :D
 
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