Here's why you buy snow tires

[robin2660]

Second, it's easy to point and laugh when it wasn't you who it happened to. I'd really love to see how you'd react if it was YOUR car that hit the pole. I made a mistake, I should have bought snow tires sooner. I've said that. I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm sharing a story. Get over yourself.

Don't take this as a personal attack. I don't even know you. Besides, what I think (and anyone else on innanets) shouldn't matter to you so much so don't get your panties in a bunch! ;-)

And I am not laughing at you at all. I am scolding you for blaming the car and not your faulty reasoning. Hopefully someone will learn from your mistake.

 

[60181]

Yeah, but I was at work. This is the only car I have available to me, and I di I wasn't blaming the tires, I was blaming the electronics, fyi The tires are pretty horrible for driving in the snow, and with the amount that we get here in Chicago, I am justified in blaming them if I so choose to. They're complete and utter RUBBISH in the snow. I got next to no traction, and could barely get above 30mph in general. On a highway. Going in a straight line.

at least you're okay.

System wise though, you can't really blame the TCS and Stability Control. They rely on available traction to work properly. Thus you really needed to put the correct rubber on there for them to do their job.....or push the button and turn the system off.

My only complaint is the systems seem to be connected. On my GXP I was able to leave Stability Control on yet turn off the Traction Control.

I drove on the OEM rubber with her for two winters, although new tires on the front each year with little issue. Wasn't great but I usually kept TC off yet still had the protection of Stability Control (to a point) through it's independent braking.

When your tail end breaks loose and you're sliding into a pole, chances are throttle, brake, e-brake, TCS or lack of etc. aren't going to save you.

Exactly....at that point Darwin already kicked in and the rest is just plain physics combined with hope.

 

[robin2660]

http://videos.streetfire.net/profile/Crash-of-the-Week.htm

LOL at the guy jumping out of the car like his feets are going to help him stop the car!

 

[phillyb]

you deserve what happened to your car. what are you thinking rolling around in the snow with these tires?
the stock tires suck, even for dry weather. hahaha

 

[oaklandopen]

You are a perfect example of people trying to cheap out and paying for it. When you bought the car you should have known that the tires were summer only. You should have budgeted tires in having known about this. If you couldn't afford the proper tires, you should re-think your priorities and buy a car in your budget (one in which you can afford repairs, insurance, and SNOW TIRES).

Hell, since you like to gamble just drive without insurance. At least then you could've afforded snow tires. Now you get to pay your deductible and perhaps an insurance rate increase.


Sorry you're the horse to beat but I get sick and tired hearing people's excuses and rationalizations. There really is no excuse for avoiding obvious safety precautions. If you slid into me and I saw your car NEW car had summer tires on it I would be tempted to do more damage to you or your car. (deadhorse

Hopefully now some people can learn from your mistake. That said I'm sure there will be bone-heads that keep insisting they know better than all of man's aquired wisdom and knowledge gleened throughout the millenia ....

ummm...that would end up hurting the other person if he ends up getting into an accident. don't give him ideas (notcool) haha

 

[FrequentFlyer]

I'm not talking about the OP specifically, but alot of people are in the mindset when they buy a car that they don't have to change the tires until the originals wear out and just figure they can drive all year round with the tires that came with the car because they're OE. That's really why most cars these days come with all-season radials because too many people would be killing themselves and/or others driving around on max performance summer tires all year. Especially the way people drive these days. In warmer climates, you can get away with it. The good part is that at least the MS3 comes with sticky max performance tires and not all-seasons like the regular 3 does because those usually SUCK in the summer and the winter (if it snows). The only thing they do well is last a long time because they're hard as a rock.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Yeah it happened in waukegan, northpoint business center near where Lakehurst used to be. Shoot me a pm with more info on those wheels/tires?

used to live over there. snow service is awful, when it comes at all. PM sent.

 

[Fenrir]

at least you're okay.

System wise though, you can't really blame the TCS and Stability Control. They rely on available traction to work properly. Thus you really needed to put the correct rubber on there for them to do their job.....or push the button and turn the system off.

My only complaint is the systems seem to be connected. On my GXP I was able to leave Stability Control on yet turn off the Traction Control.

I drove on the OEM rubber with her for two winters, although new tires on the front each year with little issue. Wasn't great but I usually kept TC off yet still had the protection of Stability Control (to a point) through it's independent braking.

I agree. I don't like how it feels like I'm voiding my warranty every time I turn it off. Most cars have little switches. Here we get both on, DSC off, or both off. Lame :\

 

[Fenrir]

you deserve what happened to your car. what are you thinking rolling around in the snow with these tires?
the stock tires suck, even for dry weather. hahaha

Your insult is discredited by the apparent fact that you know nothing about tires. Sorry. Wonder what Ferrari has to say...

 

[wheresthericego]

poor pole

 

[Fenrir]

poor pole

I etched profanity in it

 

[Lord_Zath]

Reminds me of what happened a couple years back. I was doing 25 or so coming around a downward sloping curve when I realized I was on ice, and the car refused to turn. I tried very hard to correct, but no dice. At the last second, I turned the wheels straight into the curb. The entire p5 went up and over the curb. I got super lucky, as a fire hydrant was mere feet away. I took it to the local Mazda dealer and had them check it. To my astonishment, the only thing I needed was a new tire! That's when I decided to get snow tires.

Then last year on the way to work, I cut a curve too sharply and ended up sliding at a 90 degree angle to the road, all while a school bus was approaching. I was able to correct, despite my wife slugging me in the arm .

 

[Antonio DiMarco]

Funny...

Buy snow tires.

Here's what happens if you don't...

hit a pole going around an s-curve onramp :\

Here's the pole:

Tons of damage to the right suspension setup.

In the shop till the 24th. Hope it still drives the same after this...

(p.s. pics taken by the insurance company. Unsure what the heck the pen is doing there )

I was just at my dealers the other day and a MS6 had the same damage on the same side from skidding on the snow with the stockers. They estimate about 3,000 worth of damage.

I purchased a set of snows and wheels for $700, well worth it if it prevents this type of damage.

 

[CTGrey02]

Thats what having an SUV is for

 

[Antonio DiMarco]

You could do what I did...

First, I was planning on buying snow tires. It was in the budget, and they were going to be ordered right about now once Christmas expenses were covered. s*** happens, plans change. My budget isn't exactly going the way I had planned when I bought the car. The economy is s*** right now.

Second, it's easy to point and laugh when it wasn't you who it happened to. I'd really love to see how you'd react if it was YOUR car that hit the pole. I made a mistake, I should have bought snow tires sooner. I've said that. I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm sharing a story. Get over yourself.



Tires don't cut throttle when you try to accelerate

When I purchased my car I knew I couldn't buy snows then and there. SO I asked my dealer to include Pirelli All Seasons in the deal. Since the stock tires didn't have any miles on them it made sense and allowed me to get through one winter with All Seasons and then spend money on the winters the next year. The Pirelli's did fine the first year but are pretty useless this year.

Yeah and like the other guy said TCS, ABS and DSC DEPEND ON TRACTION to work properly.

 

[my3needsaname]

The pen is there for funsies...or to show the hole in the washer fluid reservoir.

But I do have to say, that is one sexy pole...meeeeeow.(butthump)

 

[18psiWhiteMS3]

this is why my Mazdaspeed3 stays in the garage all winter

 

[///M Compact]

this is why my Mazdaspeed3 stays in the garage all winter

That's why I have winter tires on MS3; when the weather is nasty and the roads are salted my MS3 is the car of choice.

 

[GoFast]

this is why my Mazdaspeed3 stays in the garage all winter

yeah i keep my Ferrari in the garage too

 

[mo08ms3]

... In warmer climates, you can get away with it ...

Warmer climates FTW! I'm glad I don't have to worry about this in Florida. The only winter setup I need is brake replacements for all of the elderly drivers stopping in the middle of the road and pulling out in front of me! haha

Seriously, to the OP, that sucks. Good luck with the repairs.