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now that's a really cool feature!
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now that's a really cool feature!
FX-MAN said:
The numbers that you posted ARE on the net, that is true. However, they are all taken from pre-production versions. The first independent road test of the final production model MS6 will come out from the AJAC in the first week of December. Look to that article for the 0-60 time of the production model. No auto journal has yet posted times taken from the final production model which arrives in North America in October. The gearing has been changed substanially since those numbers were posted. There are no tests to reflect this yet.
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AH!... ok... 'cause I was gonna be mad. 
I am a huge fan of yellow, I love the mazdaspeed protege, a friend of mine got one around the same time I got my RX-8. I was drooling over the new '06 yellow RX-8, since it perfectly matches my 04GSX-R, I was going to be not so happy if the MS6 was going to have that yellow available.
I like black, it's hard as HELL to keep clean though. I washed it yesterday, and it already looks dirty. But I live in vancouver and it rains all the time. So I guess I'll just have to not worry about it as much.
I am a huge fan of yellow, I love the mazdaspeed protege, a friend of mine got one around the same time I got my RX-8. I was drooling over the new '06 yellow RX-8, since it perfectly matches my 04GSX-R, I was going to be not so happy if the MS6 was going to have that yellow available.I like black, it's hard as HELL to keep clean though. I washed it yesterday, and it already looks dirty. But I live in vancouver and it rains all the time. So I guess I'll just have to not worry about it as much.
Rainman said:
This is true. all the numbers you are seeing on the net are based off of Mazda's original pre-production estimate. Besides what Mazda3 posted in another thread ( 5.3 sec 0-60) there has been no other actual tests made. Matter of fact most of what you see on other sites is almost a direct copy paste from the original Mazda press release which is over a year old.
this is why magazine racing drives me nuts. You never get the full story.
Newf,
Nope. Just posting photos that different MPS 6 owners are sharing on 6club in the mazdaspeed section. I can't link to the forum for obvious reasons.
As to speed comparisons...the man did own an rx8 for awhile, and now owns a mps 6. That does give him credibility (in my eyes) above anyone else in the conversation. Owning a car is completely different then test driving one. (No offense intended).
Personally, I agree with the other's comments, I don't think an 8 has a chance in hell of out accelerating an MPS 6, but thats just me. I've been able to pass a mtx 8 with my 6s MTX on the track, and I'm only pushing about 20 more whp then stock. (See below for more info).
Alot of changes occured to the MPS 6 from the earlier "previews" to final production. There has only been one instance so far of any type of acceleration test on a final production car, which came out to be 5.3 seconds. This was also in a very low ambient temp, which is going to exaggerate the numbers slightly.
Releasing cars in the winter is always good for acceleration times, as long as traction is not an issue.
Now from all the MPS 6 owners I've seen post, most point out the car has incredible acceleration in all gears, INCLUDING 6th. This leads me to believe something might be up with your car in particular. There is one owner on 6club who is already having turbine issues (loss of power, turbo not spooling properly) and is under 1,000 miles on the odo, so its technically possible there could be something wrong with your car as well.
Nope. Just posting photos that different MPS 6 owners are sharing on 6club in the mazdaspeed section. I can't link to the forum for obvious reasons.
As to speed comparisons...the man did own an rx8 for awhile, and now owns a mps 6. That does give him credibility (in my eyes) above anyone else in the conversation. Owning a car is completely different then test driving one. (No offense intended).
Personally, I agree with the other's comments, I don't think an 8 has a chance in hell of out accelerating an MPS 6, but thats just me. I've been able to pass a mtx 8 with my 6s MTX on the track, and I'm only pushing about 20 more whp then stock. (See below for more info).
Alot of changes occured to the MPS 6 from the earlier "previews" to final production. There has only been one instance so far of any type of acceleration test on a final production car, which came out to be 5.3 seconds. This was also in a very low ambient temp, which is going to exaggerate the numbers slightly.
Releasing cars in the winter is always good for acceleration times, as long as traction is not an issue.
Now from all the MPS 6 owners I've seen post, most point out the car has incredible acceleration in all gears, INCLUDING 6th. This leads me to believe something might be up with your car in particular. There is one owner on 6club who is already having turbine issues (loss of power, turbo not spooling properly) and is under 1,000 miles on the odo, so its technically possible there could be something wrong with your car as well.
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pimpprotege69 said:
i would have to agree ... that's pretty off
the issues aren't the eal issue, service dept not being readily avalable to tsp's or mri's can make the minor issue a bigger issue.I'm going to speculate that, especially on the highway, the MSP6 should be faster numbers-wise than an RX8 by a decent margin. At the same time, it is possible that it may not *feel* faster to someone used to driving an RX8. It may even be a matter of adjusting to brief turbo lag, or to a car tuned for torque (which is arguably much more useful) than pure horsepower.
I had a similar experience when going from my '88 626 to my Saabaru aka WRX wagon. The Saabaru felt like a total dog until at least 3000 miles of driving time. Why? Because its tuned for high-end power rather than low-end torque like my Old Mazda was. Heck, the old Mazda was fastest when giving it 2/3rd throttle and letting it shift at 4500RPM Now, obviously my new car is faster, but it didn't feel this way until after a Loonnnggg adjustment period, and until I realized that it wasn't going to move unless I floored it and shifted at 5.5-7 grand.
On the other hand, maybe your MS6 has some crappy gas?
I had a similar experience when going from my '88 626 to my Saabaru aka WRX wagon. The Saabaru felt like a total dog until at least 3000 miles of driving time. Why? Because its tuned for high-end power rather than low-end torque like my Old Mazda was. Heck, the old Mazda was fastest when giving it 2/3rd throttle and letting it shift at 4500RPM
Now, obviously my new car is faster, but it didn't feel this way until after a Loonnnggg adjustment period, and until I realized that it wasn't going to move unless I floored it and shifted at 5.5-7 grand.On the other hand, maybe your MS6 has some crappy gas?
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dman i want to drive a ms6
*sigh*
Fxman, your quoted performance numbers for the MS6 are not actual track tests. The first official track test of the production model MS6 was 0-60 5.3sec.
http://www.msprotege.com/vbb222/showthread.php?t=123615525
The only way an RX-8 would run a 14.1 1/4 mile is if you dropped it out of a plane. 14.4 is the fastest real time I have seen for an 8 and most run 14.6-14.8 with a good driver and low 15's with the average Joe driving.
My best friend had one of the first RX-8's. He let me borrow the car for days at a time, it was basiclly like ownimg the car. They are a fanytastic riding and handling car, BUT they are NOT fast. This is why he eventually got rid of the car, it was too slow for a $42,000 CDN sports car.
The MS6 on the other hand is not slow, it pulls hard in every gear and will out run the RX-8. Real world 0-60 time are almost a full second ahead of the RX-8. The gap would get even bigger at highway speeds. All these "numbers" you are quoting for the MS6 are not real. The first real test and reports from people who have driven the car are that it is VERY fast.
I have extensive experience with fast car and drag racing, I trust my own experience with the two cars to be accurate. This will be a proven fact as more real world tests come out.
I'm not even sure why we are comparing these two totally different cars, but I have a hard time with people saying the RX-8 is fast. The MS6 is so much faster than the 8 I couldn't let that statement stand.
By the way I use a Mazda 3 to commute to work and back, Ive owned several cars of the 3,4, and 500hp variety. I know what speed is.
Fxman, your quoted performance numbers for the MS6 are not actual track tests. The first official track test of the production model MS6 was 0-60 5.3sec.
http://www.msprotege.com/vbb222/showthread.php?t=123615525
The only way an RX-8 would run a 14.1 1/4 mile is if you dropped it out of a plane. 14.4 is the fastest real time I have seen for an 8 and most run 14.6-14.8 with a good driver and low 15's with the average Joe driving.
My best friend had one of the first RX-8's. He let me borrow the car for days at a time, it was basiclly like ownimg the car. They are a fanytastic riding and handling car, BUT they are NOT fast. This is why he eventually got rid of the car, it was too slow for a $42,000 CDN sports car.
The MS6 on the other hand is not slow, it pulls hard in every gear and will out run the RX-8. Real world 0-60 time are almost a full second ahead of the RX-8. The gap would get even bigger at highway speeds. All these "numbers" you are quoting for the MS6 are not real. The first real test and reports from people who have driven the car are that it is VERY fast.
I have extensive experience with fast car and drag racing, I trust my own experience with the two cars to be accurate. This will be a proven fact as more real world tests come out.
I'm not even sure why we are comparing these two totally different cars, but I have a hard time with people saying the RX-8 is fast. The MS6 is so much faster than the 8 I couldn't let that statement stand.
By the way I use a Mazda 3 to commute to work and back, Ive owned several cars of the 3,4, and 500hp variety. I know what speed is.
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