GI: OBX header

technical difficultys = to lazy to get off asses or other headers sell better so we gonna make them first..
 
For Ken

I know the first attempt at the GB for the 1.6 liter headers took a slight detour. But would you still offer the special GB pricing once OBX releases these (if they EVER do)? Im still very interested in buying this header and am willing to wait it out if necessary. Think about it man!! Thanks.

Steve O
 
now that's better to know that they aren't never coming out so we won't be waiting for it, so the only thing to get extra power for our 1.6L is by going turbo ....yeah...
 
So you mean we have NOTHING as far as an exhaust header goes? What are we left with then? Port/polishing?? Not to doubt your sources or anything, but who did you hear the "word" from? Is it someone reputable?



Captain KRM P5 said:
word i have from people inside OBX is that these are never coming out
 
steve_protege said:
So you mean we have NOTHING as far as an exhaust header goes? What are we left with then? Port/polishing?? Not to doubt your sources or anything, but who did you hear the "word" from? Is it someone reputable?

two sales reps at OBX i have been dealing with for two years plus now.
 
steve_protege said:
okay, just curious. So, where does that leave us 1.6ers now?

if anything ever comes of it (its several YEARS overdue now) i will let you all know.

i have to be honest with you - a header is not going to make a huge difference on the 1.6 liter. even when combined with an intake and exhaust, its not going to make it worth the money you spend into it. figure 250 for a header, 250 for an intake, 500 for an exhaust (granted these are high estimates), plus assorted mods to go with them, you are already 1000+ dollars into mods that really aren't going to net you many gains. That and there simply aren't enough other parts available for the 1.6 to accompany things like the header. The very best performance modification you can get for this engine is really the HiBoost turbo kit, and if you're willing to spend a grand or more on mods as it is, one might as well save up that much more for some serious horsepower.
 
Okay, kinda sucks to hear that. If headers are out of the question, then would the next "best" step be a visit to a machine shop for port/polishing? I figure with a good port job you can get about the same kind of performance as a set of headers would net you, right? All you are really doing is opening up the piping a bit to allow more air to come in/go out, correct? Then maybe porting/polishing the head and IM as well would help to. And since there is no bigger TB or MAF, maybe bore out the TB a little bit and get rid of the bottlenecks in the MAF???





Captain KRM P5 said:
if anything ever comes of it (its several YEARS overdue now) i will let you all know.

i have to be honest with you - a header is not going to make a huge difference on the 1.6 liter. even when combined with an intake and exhaust, its not going to make it worth the money you spend into it. figure 250 for a header, 250 for an intake, 500 for an exhaust (granted these are high estimates), plus assorted mods to go with them, you are already 1000+ dollars into mods that really aren't going to net you many gains. That and there simply aren't enough other parts available for the 1.6 to accompany things like the header. The very best performance modification you can get for this engine is really the HiBoost turbo kit, and if you're willing to spend a grand or more on mods as it is, one might as well save up that much more for some serious horsepower.
 
the costs of porting and polishing the head would be in the thousands of dollars. it has been shown on the 1.8 and 2.0 that throttle body work does next to nothing in terms of performance. that and the ECU will not be able to adapt to these mods anyhow. for the money you will be spending to do the work you speak of, you can buy a turbo, have a more reliable setup and make more power.
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
the costs of porting and polishing the head would be in the thousands of dollars. it has been shown on the 1.8 and 2.0 that throttle body work does next to nothing in terms of performance. that and the ECU will not be able to adapt to these mods anyhow. for the money you will be spending to do the work you speak of, you can buy a turbo, have a more reliable setup and make more power.


Soooooo....... you're pretty much saying that I should just start saving up for the turbo kit now? Should I start reinforcing the tranny now if I plan on boosting in the future? Since I have an auto, I would need things like an tranny cooler, torque converter, right? Then other small nic-nacs in the future before or after purchasing the actual kit??
 
yes, if you want serious power from this car in its current state (1.6, auto trans), i would definetely start saving for the hiboost kit and the trans cooler. at low boost your converter should hold up as long as you do not abuse the hell out of it.
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
yes, if you want serious power from this car in its current state (1.6, auto trans), i would definetely start saving for the hiboost kit and the trans cooler. at low boost your converter should hold up as long as you do not abuse the hell out of it.


Alright, gotcha!! So "low-boost" would be 6-7 PSI correct? Plus as long as I don't drop the hammer to the floor every time I accelerate, the tranny should hold up?
 
steve_protege said:
Alright, gotcha!! So "low-boost" would be 6-7 PSI correct? Plus as long as I don't drop the hammer to the floor every time I accelerate, the tranny should hold up?

say no to neutral drops and stoplight peelouts :D
 

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