GI: Coming soon! Manual Boost control w/ creep and wastegate control

[TurfBurn]

A recommendation is hard to give as the definition of safe is a floating thing.

Some people might think 16 psi is a safe pressure to run. I don't think it is.

I know a lot of people have been running 9-10 psi without issues, and consider it safe, which it could be. But any time you increase your boost pressure you are eliminating "safety" in the overall system.

What boost you want to run is really up to your discretion! The best thing to do is talk to people on the forums and read some of the threads (there is one I remember seeing called "safest psi to run on a MSP") to see what you think. You may only want to add 1 psi, you may decide 4 more is the way to go. It's all up to you and how your individual car does. Some of the cars run a little leaner and thus wouldn't be as safe, and some run richer.

It's a hard question to answer! I guess read around and choose what you think is best! Just realize that any increase in boost on a car that is programmed and designed for one level of boost is "unsafe"

Sorry to not answer as directly as you may have hoped!

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com

 

[TurfBurn]

here is a discussion on the forum that might help you

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63336

 

[rocketspeed]

Got mine, seems like a high quality unit. Deciding what supporting mods are required prior to installation. Worried that I might see some pinging in 5th at WOT if I up boost a little.

 

[Aaron]

Well I finally installed the NSN MBC. WOW!!! what an excellent product. easy easy easy installation. I am all stock running 10.psi of boost and it makes a very noticeable difference. MBC spikes to 10.5 and holds 10psi and then eventually falls closer to redline. The lose of boost towards redline is more than likely to due to the plastic stock pipes I have. I am very pleased with this product. If you are looking for a excellent MBC at a great price and easy installation then NSN has the parts for you.

Thanks NSN Motorsports for my MBC.


Aaron

 

[TurfBurn]

Thanks for the great feedback! Very glad that you are happy with the product.

We have seen the boost falloff in testing as well, and it seems to occur regardless of the MBC settings, so the best understanding we have is that it is likely part of the turbo system in the MSP. I don't believe that anyone who has installed the MBC on an MP3 with a custom turbo has seen that effect which would further reinforce the theory!

Glad to hear from everyone who has been using the MBC and we are always happy to do our best to make sure you have just what you want.

Thanks guys!

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com

 

[Yay-Boost]

If you change the stock twin cats (no cats or single hi-flow) the falling boost level will go away.

 

[Aaron]

I plan on elimination my cat-pipe just have to stop at a muffler shop to see how much or see if DSM is ever gonna have the cat delete pipe availiable.

 

[TurfBurn]

I put in a magnaflow high flow cat on my vehicle... they cost about 60-80 bucks from husker performance exhaust.

 

[Aaron]

steve,

does that high flow pass emission if they apply to you? Did it make a difference?

Thanks,

Aaron

 

[Stormtrooper77]

TurfBurn. I just visited the site. Looks like you have and will have some great products. I think I may be visiting again soon.

 

[TurfBurn]

TurfBurn. I just visited the site. Looks like you have and will have some great products. I think I may be visiting again soon.

Thanks! If there is anything you'd like to see on the list of things let us know as we will be adding and developing continuously!

 

[TurfBurn]

steve,

does that high flow pass emission if they apply to you? Did it make a difference?

Thanks,

Aaron

I'm not sure if it would or not. It's a pretty pathetic catalytic converter when you hold it and compare it to the other cat. It's about 1/4 of the size. There is an off chance you'd pass emissions, but I'm not sure. I put it on my car as it had no cats at all and I did not want to deal with getting pulled over and the fines associated with having 0 cats. We don't have emissions testing so that makes life a bit easier for me, but means I don't have useful information for you!

Later.

Steve

 

[ArrestYellowMSP]

What's the difference between the Creep Eliminator and the Manual Spool Controller. Just curious, sounds like the same thing to me. And do you have a pic of your boost controller by chance?

 

[TurfBurn]

What's the difference between the Creep Eliminator and the Manual Spool Controller. Just curious, sounds like the same thing to me. And do you have a pic of your boost controller by chance?

They are different valves. One allows bleed through that increases progressively and the other is an on/off sort of thing. Also the fittings and hoses that are included in the kits as well as the instructions are a good bit different.

I'll get pics of the boost controller up soon. I'll try to remember to do that tonight for you.

Thanks!

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com

 

[TurfBurn]

Here is a picture of the MBC kit. I don't have pics of the install right now as the prototype is still installed on the test car. It's nowhere near as nice and clean and so forth. So hope this helps for now!

Thanks,

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com

 

[ArrestYellowMSP]

Very nice, easy to change. Awesome, thanks for the quick response! So which one is faster, the creep eliminator or the manual spool controller?

 

[TurfBurn]

Very nice, easy to change. Awesome, thanks for the quick response! So which one is faster, the creep eliminator or the manual spool controller?

Not grasping you 100% on this one... stupid internet

The wastegate controller and the creep protector are both different valves and they also get put into the vacuum lines in slightly different configurations... so there is that set of differences.

As far as which is faster is probably the big thing I'm not following you on. We have the creep eliminator ready and all that really does is eliminate any overboosting on system that already do it as long as it is not some inherent issue in the turbo system. In that case it might mediate it to some extent but will not be able to cure the issue.

The spool controller is in process and we are hoping to have ready before the end of next week, but no promises as we were close once before until we hit problems and had to redesing the entire thing.

If you mean faster as far as spool up time.. the creep protector will not affect spool up time in any way. And it does require that you have an MBC or EBC already installed (ours or anyone elses).

Hope that answers the questions you were after!

Thanks,

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com

 

[casper]

You need to make a dual stage boost controller... or at least one for me.

 

[TurfBurn]

There is a guy on the forums who does sell dual stage controllers. He might be able to help you out! In the future we may get to building one, but a lot of other projects are on the slate beforehand!

 

[ArrestYellowMSP]

Ok I got it now, yeah I was wanting a spool controller since the standard Garrett wastegate actuators slowly build the boost rather than letting it get to 6psi or whatever and then venting exhaust. So that's the one I want! Sweet, can't wait to get one of these.