Getting this thing back in to reasonable shape

Aeridyne

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So out of the blue, from one oil change to the next, I must have started burning oil. 3 oil changes ago, I was very displeased to discover that when I pulled the oil pan plug, only a quart or less drained out. It had never done that before. There are no leaks to be found, anywhere, at all, I've crawled all around it numerous times and peered from every angle possible underneath when changing the oil. I was amazed at the durability of this engine, three times now I've been too busy (and stupid) to keep the level up, it seems to burn about 4 quarts every 3000 miles, so when I forget to add between changes, well it has about nothing in it.

The oil has to be going somewhere, so I figure it must be burning, the exhaust is not apparent however, it is not obvious that there is oil smoke in the exhaust basically. I had a caprice that burned a ton, this car isn't like that. (Standard Protege Sedan 02' ES body style, 2.0 engine)

I've talked to a bunch of people and some have told me different things could be causing it, it never burned oil at all before it started between oil changes a few back, then all of a sudden it burned at that rate described above, about 4 quarts in 3000 miles.

This is what I've done so far (other than inspect the hell out of it visually)

1. Changed out the plugs (twice, once with NGK G-power, and now running NGK V-power) - no change, but I did have a blown G-power on cylinder, must have detonated.

2. Swapped wires and coil packs, all new.

3. Installed new PCV valve (old one was kind of loose, I JUST did this yesterday) Also changed oil from Castrol GTX high mileage synthetic to Valvoline Max Life, running 10w30 weight.

One thing remaining is my intake boot, I think it has a leak and I duct taped it up a while ago, but I don't think it's holding real well. It never burned before I even taped it though, so I don't know how that would make any sense.

If I ordered and installed a new Intake boot as well to take care of that potential air leak (or is air sealing the intake boot unimportant?). And if it is important and I did replace that too would I have eliminated all variables other than the valve seals or piston rings at that point, or might I get lucky with something I'm unaware of?

I've been trying desperately to keep my machine happy but am failing and it makes me sad. All advice, input, information and help is greatly and sincerely appreciated, thanks in advance to everyone.
 
Just out of curiosity, I'm not the most experienced forum poster, is there anything I am doing wrong to cause my not getting any comments/replies, or is it just that no one likes me anyway? lol. Blunt honesty always appreciated XD
 
Also, does it take much disassembly to visually check out the valve guide seals in the hope that those may be what is letting oil slip through?
 
plugs,wires and coils dont cause oil loss. Niether would a torn intake boot. If the valve seals or guides were leaking you would have smoking after initial start up and then it would clear up. You probably have leaking oil rings. Check the spark plugs for oil deposits.
 
Just out of curiosity, I'm not the most experienced forum poster, is there anything I am doing wrong to cause my not getting any comments/replies, or is it just that no one likes me anyway? lol. Blunt honesty always appreciated XD

Well you posted in the wrong section.
 
Well you posted in the wrong section.

I never know where to post on here, there's a zillion places to post things! Doh! So where was it supposed to go? My bad, sorry guys.


Well, it does give out just the tiniest bit of smoke on startup, but not much, that can't be where all of it is going, and it's the standard white smoke from cold pipes/condensation, not oily smoke anyway.

Ok, so the manager guy at autozone here was wrong, torn intake boot does not in fact cause any oil burn. My pcv valve was loose though, and I think I better check the other hoses on that for tightness or cracks in the plastic thingys, but, would a quart every 1000 possibly burn through the pcv?
 
plugs,wires and coils dont cause oil loss. Niether would a torn intake boot. If the valve seals or guides were leaking you would have smoking after initial start up and then it would clear up. You probably have leaking oil rings. Check the spark plugs for oil deposits.

The plugs do not seem to have any oil deposits on them. The car has had a slight white oxide on the plugs since I bought it at 150k miles, it didn't start burning oil until about 210k, it now has 228k. Same exact white residue the whole way, kinda light, I had posted a pic of it before on here but no one replied. (hell maybe I was in the wrong section again.)

It's the fact that it went from burning nothing at all to a quart or more every 1000 that gets me, obviously something changed rather drastically. The PCV is the last thing I know of (albeit my knowledge is relatively limited) that could be the source of the oil burn issue aside from internal seals or the piston rings. ???
 

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