Geneva: Mazda3 MPS and Mazda3 refresh press release and pics

Antoine said:
Now we can end the AWD discussion (thumb)...Great info on the upcoming state-side MS3!

That is quite pricey for a non-all wheel drive IMO. I also think thats alot of torque for a front wheel drive.
 
Greysave said:
That is quite pricey for a non-all wheel drive IMO. I also think thats alot of torque for a front wheel drive.

"Quite Pricey"? It's only like $3k more than a loaded Grand Touring model (without Nav). That's pretty cheap for a factory-warranteed 87hp boost.

Now... the question burning in MY mind is this: can you swap in an MS6 ECM and get the remaining 27hp that was tuned out?? (scratch) (glare)
 
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I still wish they make an AWD version.
My wife and I are saving up some money for our next car to replace our old 94 Corolla.
Our target is either the WRX or the STi, if they release MS3 with AWD, we will buy it instead of the Impreza for sure.
 
goldwing2000 said:
"Quite Pricey"? It's only like $3k more than a loaded Grand Touring model (without Nav). That's pretty cheap for a factory-warranteed 87hp boost.

Now... the question burning in MY mind is this: can you swap in an MS6 ECM and get the remaining 27hp that was tuned out?? (scratch) (glare)

That will the be big question on most MS3 owners minds ;) I have a feeling the "detuning" was mainly done by way of the ECM but there might some "packaging" differences that also contribute to the decrease in power.

Bingo...read the article again and found this little nugget of info...

However, Mazda is giving an "over 250" horsepower estimate for this 3 compared to 274 on the 6, due to different exhaust routing and emissions equipment. Torque should hold steady around 280 at 3,000 rpm.
 
Antoine said:
Bingo...read the article again and found this little nugget of info...

Good eye, boss!

I'm still going to hold onto the hope that an MS6 ECM will unlock some secret potential. (evil)
 
misbehave said:
How about both AWD and FWD version?
But I seriously doubt Mazda will ever do it.

Yeah, never gonna happen.
 
goldwing2000 said:
Good eye, boss!

I'm still going to hold onto the hope that an MS6 ECM will unlock some secret potential. (evil)

Yeah...me too! With the LSD tourque steer should be held to a minimum.
 
um,ok

seriously guys,quit the copy and paste and just post the link to the specs...you think i believe you figured all that out by urself...post the links next time,it take up less space on this site..just a thought
 
There are plenty of links posted.

What you believe or do not believe is of little consequence.
 
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goldwing2000 said:
There are plenty of links posted.

What you believe or do not believe is of little consequence.
LMAO (lol)
 
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besides the ms6 ecm, if the loss of hp was really due to emissions equipment and exhaust routing it will be nice to see if it reacts well to a turbo back exhaust...
 
Alright guys... I don't even know if this is possible but... earlier today, I was at a light an in the oncoming lane was a red 3 hatch complete with the MS3 wheels, enlarged hood and even the black treatment done on the back near the exhaust (I saw this in my rear view as he drove by) Even though I was already late to work, I turned around at the nearest spot and tried to catch up.... no luck. so... the question is... is it possible this was an actual MS3? seriously... it had the SAME EXACT fugly snowflake wheels as in the pictures...
 
CHICO2003 said:
Alright guys... I don't even know if this is possible but... earlier today, I was at a light an in the oncoming lane was a red 3 hatch complete with the MS3 wheels, enlarged hood and even the black treatment done on the back near the exhaust (I saw this in my rear view as he drove by) Even though I was already late to work, I turned around at the nearest spot and tried to catch up.... no luck. so... the question is... is it possible this was an actual MS3? seriously... it had the SAME EXACT fugly snowflake wheels as in the pictures...

Whoa that's crazy. It's gotta be the real thing, maybe Mazda is taking one around to the dealership for some sort of training or something I dunno.

I hope the "old" 3s sedans are still around at the end of summer when I might have the cash to get one. I'm still not sure if I like the refresh, definitely not feelin the wheels though.
 
misbehave said:
How about both AWD and FWD version?
But I seriously doubt Mazda will ever do it.


i also dought it too i wish they would come out with a rear wheel drive it would just be fun to drive.... but the awd would be awsome for rally
 

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