GB: Weapon R Hardpipes group buy

[dcbeggs]

Hi all,

I was just speaking with a Weapon R rep and was asking him about a possible group buy.

We can have a minimum of 5 people, and unfortunately the more we get, the price won't change. None the less, the price will be $240 shipped.

Is there an interest in this? If so, can I get a head count of people who would by no doubt "Be In 100%."

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

thats a heck of a price!!! id jump on that. but i dont know if i want a fmic or not! sniff sniff

 

[dcbeggs]

It does seem like a good deal. I just don't know if you get much performance for these or not. I wouldn't think that they would give you much over the stock plastics. I can't think that airflow would improve that much.

 

[dmention7]

$240 shipped? Depending on the timing, I am probably about 75% in for this.


You're not going to get much of a performance increase just by switching from the stock plastic tubes to hardpipes (probably slightly better airflow, and less heatsoaking), but hardpipes are virtually a must if you plan on turning up the boost. Even at stock boost, I barely trust those plastic pipes....

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123680625

 

[dcbeggs]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123680625

Yeah, I've been keeping up on that thread. I would just like to have more than one opinion on them. But I am glad the 1st opinion is a positive one.

I would just like to make sure an add on like hard pipes would make more of a performace differance opposed to just they way they sound.

 

[dcbeggs]

$240 shipped? Depending on the timing, I am probably about 75% in for this.


You're not going to get much of a performance increase just by switching from the stock plastic tubes to hardpipes (probably slightly better airflow, and less heatsoaking), but hardpipes are virtually a must if you plan on turning up the boost. Even at stock boost, I barely trust those plastic pipes....

I hear what you're saying about performance difference. I wouldn't think that the airflow would be a huge difference by any means. It's not like the stock pipes are restrictive. And outside of looks, really how much different could they really be (which is too bad because I like they way they look.)

 

[Matrix]

I hear what you're saying about performance difference. I wouldn't think that the airflow would be a huge difference by any means. It's not like the stock pipes are restrictive. And outside of looks, really how much different could they really be (which is too bad because I like they way they look.)

The issue here is not the restrictive size of any set of pipes, rather the expansion and contraction of the plastic pipes. With heat & boost, the plastic pipes are prone to cracking and expanding. Due to this, sustained boost is not always consistent.

With good quality hardpipes, these factors are removed. The piping interior remains at a consistent volume and is mandrel bent for much better flow and boost consistency. Look at the stock pipes...see all that ribbing and the flex sections? They produce inconsistent boost pressure because the pipes flex and expand. Hardpipes fix that problem pretty well.

I highly recommend a good set of quality hardpipes on any boosted application.

 

[dcbeggs]

The issue here is not the restrictive size of any set of pipes, rather the expansion and contraction of the plastic pipes. With heat & boost, the plastic pipes are prone to cracking and expanding. Due to this, sustained boost is not always consistent.

With good quality hardpipes, these factors are removed. The piping interior remains at a consistent volume and is mandrel bent for much better flow and boost consistency. Look at the stock pipes...see all that ribbing and the flex sections? They produce inconsistent boost pressure because the pipes flex and expand. Hardpipes fix that problem pretty well.

I highly recommend a good set of quality hardpipes on any boosted application.

To a certain extent, that makes sense to me, under higher boost applications. With a stock boost set-up, I just still can't imagine that there is that much difference "power wise." However, I understand how the dymanics of airflow would be improved.

 

[yashart_mp3]

The issue here is not the restrictive size of any set of pipes, rather the expansion and contraction of the plastic pipes. With heat & boost, the plastic pipes are prone to cracking and expanding. Due to this, sustained boost is not always consistent.

With good quality hardpipes, these factors are removed. The piping interior remains at a consistent volume and is mandrel bent for much better flow and boost consistency. Look at the stock pipes...see all that ribbing and the flex sections? They produce inconsistent boost pressure because the pipes flex and expand. Hardpipes fix that problem pretty well.

I highly recommend a good set of quality hardpipes on any boosted application.

This mean speaks the truth. After speaking to one of the design engineers at TurboHoses (who make the best SMIC for the MSP) I was completely sold on their products. They said pretty much the same thing... That even on a stock MSP, the plastic hoses expand and cause you to lose power in the upper RPM's. They dyno'd the MSP with only the hardpipes installed, and noticed a gain of few HP across the board. A good set of hard pipes really is a good investment.

 

[dcbeggs]

Ok, good to hear that from a couple of different people.

Does anyone think then that this is a good group buy idea?

 

[shawn83gt]

protege grerage tried to get one going

Ken had this in june with no one was interested. I wanted a set, but did not get one.:mad:
www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123672292

 

[dcbeggs]

I remember reading that back in June. I just didn't know to much about them then. He had a sweet deal going on.

 

[kcmsp]

Has this expired yet?

 

[Rush]

^^^ It never even happened in the first place.