GB: Rota P1s 18x8 +48e (67.1mm hub) OEM Mazda fitment

[drledford93]

Here's the physics of unsprung weight as I understand it...

For every 1lb of weight reduction (wheels, tires, lower suspension members, etc.), that is equivalent to 7lbs of total weight reduction of the car.

So, if you reduce the wheel weight by 8lbs, then:

8*7 = 56lbs per wheel * 4 = 224lbs of effective car weight you lost!

Pretty significant...(wow)

Daniel

 

[ZooZoom]

well, these P1's will reduce each corner by five lbs of "deadweight" from the stockers while adding up to 1.25" of contact patch (245's) for better traction.

not a bad move at all! (glare)

 

[bushrat]

Will the stock rubber fit on these wheels?

I have a Cosmic Blue too, so it's definitely the right color for me. And these are alot cheaper than the Ray's.

 

[ZooMIN3]

(drive2)

Will the stock rubber fit on these wheels?

I have a Cosmic Blue too, so it's definitely the right color for me. And these are alot cheaper than the Ray's.

they'll fit. your stockers will just be stretched out a bit, but it should be fine.
(drive2)

 

[ZooZoom]

Yep. absolutely 100% certain that the stock 215 rubber will fit.

Just say the word bushrat and you can be the official third person!

 

[khaydin]

Why would he only be able to order 5 sets of the same color wheel? They're all the same model wheel, I can't see why a different color would be an issue to order for someone who would be paying for them. Its not like that one color would be sitting in his stock and not selling. That sounds stupid to me that he couldn't order like 4 hyper black sets and 1 set of a different color... I'd give this some serious consideration if you could order a different color but from what you say we can only get hyper black because thats what you want.

 

[neox.286]

because its probably a different part number from rota and hes gotta order in bulk to get a discount (Im assuming)

 

[ZooZoom]

because its probably a different part number from rota and hes gotta order in bulk to get a discount (Im assuming)

reasonable assumption. and large mfg's usually don't like to deal with a bunch of "mix & match" orders that are easily screwed up. can you imagine the logistics of doing this for countless distributors worldwide? (bang)

 

[ZooMIN3]

B'sides,

if I ever wanted to change my wheel color; I'll just take'em to get poweder coated a different color. But I'm sure these will look sexy!

-J

 

[khaydin]

B'sides,

if I ever wanted to change my wheel color; I'll just take'em to get poweder coated a different color. But I'm sure these will look sexy!

-J

Powder coating is bad for alloy wheels. The powder coating process makes the wheels weaker so you're more likely to damage the wheels on bumps than if you left them the color they are. It's probably pretty safe to say that the lighter the wheel the weaker the powder coating will make it.

I think someone mentioned in another thread that there was a lower temp cooking process that's safer for wheels but not every place does it.

 

[ZooZoom]

Good news......bad news

Just spoke with Zoeb at Subydude.com. If we keep this approach of getting a minimum of three people to order (same wheel/same color), then Subydude will place an order directly from Rota factory.....overseas. He said a typical "custom" order takes about 3 months for production and delivery by slow boat.


Now before everybody.....including me.....scatters for the wind, Zoeb came up with an alternative approach that allows anyone to order most any color (what they have in stock). You see, they stock plenty of Rota wheels for Subarus. And Subies have a 56mm hub size. That's too small for the Mazda 67mm hub.

Zoeb has access to a machine shop that will bore out the center hub to a perfect Mazda 67.1mm diameter making them hub-centric wheels just like OEMs. And he can do this with wheels sitting in inventory right now! Here's the kicker however......like everything in life.....nothing is free. The cost for getting them bored out is $25/wheel or an extra $100 bucks on the wheel set order.

Personally, I'm going for it! I most definitely do want these Rota P1's in Hyper Black So I will be placing my order today. Zoeb ensured me that the final product is identical to what you get when they are customer ordered a particular hub size. He said, in fact, they all start out with a smaller hub diameter and get machined out to order size.

I hope this doesn't disappoint anyone too much. And please don't flame me for it unless you feel compelled to do so. I'm just another Mazda-holic that wants to ZoomZoom up his Speed3.

Another point that I wanted to clarify (an earlier mistake on my part), is that lots of Rotas do come in the "universal" hub size of 74mm. Most aftermarket wheels do actually. These are made to work in a hub-centric fashion using hub centering rings. Zoeb said anyone ordering other styles of Rota wheels that are universal can get a set of 67.1mm hub centering rings for FREE!!!

So there it is. You can get a set of 18 x 8 +48mm 67.1mm hub P1 wheels custom-made immediately for the price of $850 with FREE SHIPPING!


I am canceling this GB. Or at least removing myself from it. Zoeb said if there's still 3 people that want a certain Rota wheel style/color (has to be the same) and can tolerate the estimated 3 month wait, then he can still do it for $750 with FREE Shipping.

Cheers!

 

[ZooMIN3]

Powder coating is bad for alloy wheels. The powder coating process makes the wheels weaker so you're more likely to damage the wheels on bumps than if you left them the color they are. It's probably pretty safe to say that the lighter the wheel the weaker the powder coating will make it.

I think someone mentioned in another thread that there was a lower temp cooking process that's safer for wheels but not every place does it.

^^^ Tru dat... good point, I forgot about that making the wheel weaker part... I heard that somewhere before too; but is that really fact? Or myth? That is what I don't want to happen, so I'll check more into it when I get home.

-J

 

[ZooMIN3]

Good news......bad news
Another point that I wanted to clarify (an earlier mistake on my part), is that lots of Rotas do come in the "universal" hub size of 74mm. Most aftermarket wheels do actually. These are made to work in a hub-centric fashion using hub centering rings. Zoeb said anyone ordering other styles of Rota wheels that are universal can get a set of 67.1mm hub centering rings for FREE!!!

So there it is. You can get a set of 18 x 8 +48mm 67.1mm hub P1 wheels custom-made immediately for the price of $850 with FREE SHIPPING!


I am canceling this GB. Or at least removing myself from it. Zoeb said if there's still 3 people that want a certain Rota wheel style/color (has to be the same) and can tolerate the estimated 3 month wait, then he can still do it for $750 with FREE Shipping.

Cheers!

I'll just have to look into this.... That only accounts for the hub, and not the bolt pattern as well. dang.. lol

Well; pull me off of the GB altogether then. I'll continue to shop around.

-J

 

[ZooZoom]

J -

not sure what you mean by the "bolt pattern" being off. Its not.

Subaru STI's (05 on) use the same 5 x 114 pattern as the MS3.

Yes, other Subies use the 5 x 100 pattern. But that won't fit no matter how much machining you do.


So it really comes down to deciding if getting Rota P1's - any color in Subydude's inventory - with a perfect OEM fitment 67.1mm hub dia is worth $850 bucks (free shipping)

Not too many other wheel options that are cheaper than that. Not if you want 18 x 8.0 wheels that weigh 19 lbs!

-K

 

[ZooZoom]

Just so everyone understands the "deal" here, if you want a particular Rota wheel that has a non-universal hub size - not just the P1's - and you're willing to shell out another $25/wheel then you can get it custom machined to Mazda 67.1mm hub (OEM like).

To Clarify: Lots of Rota wheels - like the vast majority of aftermarket wheels - come with an oversized "universal" hub diameter of 74 or 76mm. These wheels must use hub-centering rings to align the wheel with the hub. Subydude will supply them FREE of charge for any other style of Rota wheel that is of a universal hub size. Check with Zoab. Only a few select Rota wheel models like these P1's come with a specific hub size (non-universal).

 

[ZooMIN3]

For Everyone's Info;

Here are the gold wheels Zoab has for sale...

I called him (cool dude by the way) and he guided me to the web page with these wheels. He has a few sets, so get on them if you wants.... 750.00 shipped.

-J

 

[ZooZoom]

nice choice J

those are Royal Gold, correct?

 

[ZooMIN3]

Yup! Royal Lip Tommy Gold! lol

Deja Vu!!

 

[ZooMIN3]

I am SO tempted in getting these!!! lol

 

[ZooZoom]

Is there an echo in here? (.....echo in here?) (burnout)


weird having the same conversation on two boards simultaneously, huh.

those are P1's, right? are they already 67.1mm hubs?